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Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:40 pm

Question....how do the Pilots come back from such an emotional and physically draining win against BYU to play USD on Saturday at 1 PM in front of a much quieter group of UP fans?

USD will be a disappointed but confident team after their narrow loss in Spokane on Thursday evening.  It’s going to be tough for the Pilots, but with only three more home games this season…they’re going to have to win them all to give themselves a shot at 6th place or better heading in the WCC Tournament.

It’s going to be up to those who attend the game to do all we can to generate some noise Saturday.  Remember, there will be free kid tickets (6th grade and below) in general admission and 2-for-1 tickets in all price levels for others.

It's too soon for Las Vegas odds on the game, but Pomeroy picks the Pilots by 6.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:17 am

If the students turn out again, the Pilots fans might be just as loud. Most of the noise against BYU was from Cougars fans.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:11 pm

In USD’s 3 point loss in Spokane last night, junior Johnny Dee was nearly perfect for the Toreros. The junior guard scored a game-high 26 points on 8-of-10 shooting and was perfect from the free-throw line (7-of-7) and from three (3-of-3). Senior Dennis Kramer chipped in ten points to go with his seven rebounds.

The Toreros were able to open up a five-point advantage midway through the first half, but GU responded with a 17-0 run and never relinquished the lead.  USD remained within striking distance throughout the second half, and they were able to tie the game at 55-55 with 5:55 left. However, they could only score one more point as GU held on to stay undefeated at home on the season.

In addition to some sharp shooting by Dee in USD’s 59-56 loss, USD played some lock-down defense holding the best offensive team in the conference to 22 points below their season average and to 2-of-11 shooting from 3-point range in the second half.

Besides Dee and Kramer, and junior guard Christopher Anderson, a USD player who has done well against the Pilots in the past is the “other” Dutch product by way of Canarius, Jito Kok.  At 6-9/235, Kok has limited UP’s bigs in the past…..let’s hope the Pilots can go inside to Thomas, Riley, Voldy, and Ryan on Saturday night.

San Diego is a lot better than their WCC record (2-6) would indicate.  For the Pilots to win they’re going to have to get back into that “big game” frame of mind, limit their turnovers, and go back to their normally very good free-throw shooting.

Will the student section show up for a Saturday afternoon game?  It could make all the difference!  pirat

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:56 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:Question....how do the Pilots come back from such an emotional and physically draining win against BYU to play USD on Saturday at 1 PM in front of a much quieter group of UP fans?


I'm more worried about us old folks being able to recover. I can't do 3OT's any more.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:53 pm

Las Vegas is favoring all the home teams in the WCC in Saturday’s games:

UP by 6 over USD
SMC by 12 over LMU
USF by 6.5 over SCU
GU by 7.5 over BYU
UOP by 5 over PU

(UP7587 questioned UOP being favored over LMU on Thursday, but the odds makers are obviously still enamored with UOP’s Big West Championship last year and the return of all the players because they’re now also favored over PU.  So far PU is showing it’s a better team than LMU, and the Lions beat UOP Thursday night by 11.)

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by up7587 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:02 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:Las Vegas is favoring all the home teams in the WCC in Saturday’s games:

UP by 6 over USD
SMC by 12 over LMU
USF by 6.5 over SCU
GU by 7.5 over BYU
UOP by 5 over PU

(UP7587 questioned UOP being favored over LMU on Thursday, but the odds makers are obviously still enamored with UOP’s Big West Championship last year and the return of all the players because they’re now also favored over PU.  So far PU is showing it’s a better team than LMU, and the Lions beat UOP Thursday night by 11.)

Is that what's known as hidden value?

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:58 am

Team needs to heed Rev's comment on how the win compared to the Zag win and a caution after the game.

That was that. This is this. Now we gotta bounce back

The guy is a poet.


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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:20 am

PurpleGeezer wrote:Team needs to heed Rev's caution after the game.

That was that. This is this. Now we gotta bounce back

The guy is a poet.
And from Coach Rev this morning:
One evident truth as we approach the half way point in @WCChoops play is "if you don't get better, you get beat"   Improve and survive.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Guest on Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:50 pm

I think anyone that's halfway paid attention this year would have expected nothing less than a tight one today, and it's playing out like that so far. Hopefully they can avoid a big USD run coming out of halftime!!!

p.s. that wasn't Riley Barker leading the fast break, was it?? Big man moving like a young, uhh, Michael Holton out there!

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Stonehouse on Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Alec wasn't in the process of shooting when the whistle blew? Wow.


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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by wrv on Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:37 pm

I think the more relevant question is not when the whistle blew but when the foul occurred. I think a case can be made that Alec was fouled sufficiently before the shot that the ref made the right call, but I am not sure the ref got it right . . . perhaps the shot should have counted.

Alec had a tough game. The front end of the one and one he missed after this whistle no doubt was just part of his frustration during the game.

They were holding Bobby Sharp all day but it was called only once.

This was a winnable game.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by oh brody on Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:50 pm

Stonehouse wrote:Alec wasn't in the process of shooting when the whistle blew? Wow.


I thought it was an "and one" watching it live and I have watched the Root TV replay and Stoney's replay a couple of times each now and still think its an "and one" call.  One of the referee's signaled to count the basket and Tony Padilla overruled him.  How Tony could take points off the board in that type of situation is incomprehensible!

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by up7587 on Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:08 pm

BYU finally beat us. The guys were a step slow a lot, and missed several shots at the rim, that I attribute to tired legs. Riley Barker did a good job, but it was clear Thomas was too gassed to come back in late in the game. I would of liked to have both of them available for rebounding on the Wintering free throw at the end.  Crying or Very sad 

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by VillaGorilla on Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:24 pm

Can't blame the refs for any loss, especially when we miss our free throws.  Very difficult to drop this winnable home game.  It was a tough ask playing the Saturday afternoon after a Thursday night triple-OT thriller.  That one final call didn't decide the outcome of the game.

But, man, what a call . . .

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Stonehouse on Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:52 pm

VillaGorilla wrote:Can't blame the refs for any loss, especially when we miss our free throws... That one final call didn't decide the outcome of the game.

Oh I agree. We made plenty of mistakes today.

But you can't argue that, had the call gone our way, we would have been shooting a free throw to take the lead with 10 seconds left. As it stood, we had to make two in a one-and-one situation just to tie it.

The difference between the pressure on a player - especially a freshman - is significant.

Maybe this call didn't decide the outcome (San Diego would have still had a possession before the final buzzer), but it very much impacted Portland's chances to get a win.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:03 pm

No question Dave Libby is doing his job.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Stonehouse on Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:35 pm

PurpleGeezer wrote:No question Dave Libby is doing his job.

Being so sure that the home team doesn't get "homer" calls that you actually end up totally favoring the road team? Yeah... that has Libby's stink all over it.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:59 pm

According to the play-by-play on the UP website, we missed 11 layups in today's game. At the close of the non-conference slate I predicted on this board that our tendency as a team to miss lots of layups would cost us games once we reached the conference schedule.

Forget the awful call by the ref on Wintering's basket at the end of that game. Those 11 missed layups were the reason that we lost.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:22 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:Las Vegas is favoring all the home teams in the WCC in Saturday’s games:

UP by 6 over USD (USD by 2)
SMC by 12 over LMU (SMC by 28)
USF by 6.5 over SCU (USF by 9)
GU by 7.5 over BYU (GU by 15)
UOP by 5 over PU (UOP by 10)
UP was the only home team to lose on Saturday.

Updated standings:

1. GU 8-1
2. SMC 6-2
3. USF 6-3
4. BYU 5-4
5. PU 5-5
6. UP 4-5
7. SCU 3-6
8. LMU 3-7
9. USD 3-6
10. UOP 2-6

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by up7587 on Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:56 am

Coach takes the high road:

@CoachReveno wrote:Appreciate all the text messages of support but game not decided by 1 play or call. Had opportunities throughout, unable to convert.#fighton

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Guest on Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:03 am

DeanMurdoch wrote:Hopefully they can avoid a big USD run coming out of halftime!

13-3 run for San Diego to start second half.

 scratch

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:53 am

DeanMurdoch wrote:
DeanMurdoch wrote:Hopefully they can avoid a big USD run coming out of halftime!

13-3 run for San Diego to start second half.

 scratch

The warm milk at halftime tradition needs to be eliminated.

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by oh brody on Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:52 pm

PurpleGeezer wrote:
DeanMurdoch wrote:
DeanMurdoch wrote:Hopefully they can avoid a big USD run coming out of halftime!

13-3 run for San Diego to start second half.

 scratch

The warm milk at halftime tradition needs to be eliminated.

Agreed and I would suggest holding back on the turkey smorgasbord too! Sleep

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Re: San Diego -- Saturday @ 1 PM on Root

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:41 pm

Substitute a spoonful of ground horseradish root.



( no topping. Wouldn't want to violate any NCAA rules.)

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