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Point Shaving at Toledo?
by Stonehouse on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:40 am
Saw this on Deadspin this morning:
http://pregame.com/forums/blogs/rj-bell/archive/2008/08/06/toledo-basketball-point-shaving-behind-the-numbers.aspx?gn=382184
Kind of confusing, but worrisome none the less. It says that Vegas people think 5% of games with a point spread of 10+ are fixed, or at least have people trying to manipulate the final score. Don't know if I believe that, but I'm not naive enough to think that this kind of stuff doesn't happen a lot more than we realize.
But the part that really cracks me up is how it was written by RJ Bell of PreGame.com and not only did he quote himself in the article but he credited himself by name for scooping a story a few years ago. Um... I think this is exhibit A of why some journalists and newspaper people are gnashing their teeth at blogs. I mean... I only wrote for the Beacon, but I did learn that you're not supposed to quote yourself. Ha!
http://pregame.com/forums/blogs/rj-bell/archive/2008/08/06/toledo-basketball-point-shaving-behind-the-numbers.aspx?gn=382184
Kind of confusing, but worrisome none the less. It says that Vegas people think 5% of games with a point spread of 10+ are fixed, or at least have people trying to manipulate the final score. Don't know if I believe that, but I'm not naive enough to think that this kind of stuff doesn't happen a lot more than we realize.
But the part that really cracks me up is how it was written by RJ Bell of PreGame.com and not only did he quote himself in the article but he credited himself by name for scooping a story a few years ago. Um... I think this is exhibit A of why some journalists and newspaper people are gnashing their teeth at blogs. I mean... I only wrote for the Beacon, but I did learn that you're not supposed to quote yourself. Ha!
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GO PILOTS!!!
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by aleppiek on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:07 am
Stoney, delayed congrats on post number 1,000! You along with Geez and a select few others make this board what it is. Thanks.
Rudy Fernandez On who he's looking forward to playing against the most: "Pau. I've never played against him, only on the same team. I want to put points on your face."
Congrats Stonehouse!
by Purplegeezer on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:57 am
You posts keep enlightening us all with fresh stuff!
Keep it up!
Pilotnut will be mailing you the keys to the executive lounge. Pretty spiffy!
My favorite features are the wide screen plasma display and the free beer tap.
Keep it up!
Pilotnut will be mailing you the keys to the executive lounge. Pretty spiffy!
My favorite features are the wide screen plasma display and the free beer tap.
Go Pilots! ... 
The rules of soccer are very simple, basically it is this: if it moves, kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does. ~Phil Woosnam
The rules of soccer are very simple, basically it is this: if it moves, kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does. ~Phil Woosnam
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by PilotNut on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:26 am
Congrats to our newest Playmaker!
Once we get a few more members, we can hire the chef and set up the wood-fired pizza oven...
Mmmm beer...
Once we get a few more members, we can hire the chef and set up the wood-fired pizza oven...
Mmmm beer...
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by Stonehouse on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:57 am
Ha ha... thanks guys! Can't wait to hang out at the lounge with the Geezer. I'll bring the chips next week!
Only 400 more to go till you can come, Nut.
Only 400 more to go till you can come, Nut.
GO PILOTS!!!
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by PilotNut on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:00 pm
Well, us Admins just sneak in when you guys arent there. Which isnt very often, since Geezer seems to camp out next to the tap at all hours...
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by Purplegeezer on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:23 pm
MMpphh? err , I mean, I'm not always at the tap. sometimes it runs out, and I have to drink the imported bottled stuff until you guys put in a fresh one. 
Go Pilots! ...
The rules of soccer are very simple, basically it is this: if it moves, kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does. ~Phil Woosnam
The rules of soccer are very simple, basically it is this: if it moves, kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does. ~Phil Woosnam
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by PurplePrideTrumpet on Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:06 pm
@ Stonehouse: +1 for reaching 1000 posts.
You look at the girly pictures and read the foul-mouthed posts on Deadspin??? I'm shocked!
Well, not really. That's where I'm headed next
Mr. Bell's article is why Buzz Bissinger disapproves of blogs.
/Deadspin reference
You look at the girly pictures and read the foul-mouthed posts on Deadspin??? I'm shocked!
Well, not really. That's where I'm headed next
Mr. Bell's article is why Buzz Bissinger disapproves of blogs.
/Deadspin reference
Remember, the greatest intangible of all is love. Number two is grit.
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Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by mattywizz on Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:51 pm
Actually, it is okay to quote yourself in an article of you are the president of the "publication" AND you have been featured on both ESPN's First Take and the Wall Street Journal.
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by MesaPilot1 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:39 pm
CONGRATS STONEHOUSE!!!
THANKS FOR PROVIDING MANY OF THE TOPICS OR A EDUCATED REPLY.
THANKS FOR PROVIDING MANY OF THE TOPICS OR A EDUCATED REPLY.
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by FANatic on Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:22 pm
Way to go Stonehouse. I completely forgot about looking at post counts until I saw Geezer was already over 1100! So I checked yours and lo and behold it was at 1010.
That makes you a Point Guard now, right?
(Man, I feel real weird in this thread. It's real dim in here and the music's kinda loud...and what in tarnation is that awful smell? Is that what 1,000 posts does to you, Geezer and Stoney?)
That makes you a Point Guard now, right?
(Man, I feel real weird in this thread. It's real dim in here and the music's kinda loud...and what in tarnation is that awful smell? Is that what 1,000 posts does to you, Geezer and Stoney?)
Re: Point Shaving at Toledo?
by SciFi on Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:39 pm
Way to go, Stonehouse! Without you and Geezer, we'd be nothing!
-SciFi
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