2010 Preseason polls

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:21 am

TopDrawer is slowly putting up his choices for the top 20 players in each conference. The WCC isn't up yet. The conferences that are seem to want to play with no defenders or with no mids.

Also, the NSCAA has it's preseason poll up. It looks like like year's final RPI.

by Stonehouse Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:42 am

Pilots check in at #5 in the NSCAA coache's poll. Santa Clara #9. No Oregon State or San Diego:

http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=1212&dv=1&dt=20100810&gen=Women

by purple passion Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:08 am

[quote]No Oregon State or San Diego:

UCSD is listed 20th in DIVISION 2????? Did I miss something? Aren't ALL of the WAC teams in Division 1?

by eProf Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:15 am

Stonehouse wrote:Pilots check in at #5 in the NSCAA coache's poll. Santa Clara #9. No Oregon State or San Diego:

http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=1212&dv=1&dt=20100810&gen=Women

If I'm reading my schedule right, this means that we're playing eight top-25 (including three top-10) schools: numbers 2, 8, 9, 13, 14, 18, 20 and 22. If these rankings are indiciations of all these teams' results over the year, it should be good for our RPI compared to last year.

by Stonehouse Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:49 am

Purple Passion-

The University of San Diego is in the WCC.

UC-San Diego is a large state school and doesn't compete at the D1 level.

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:23 pm

Stonehouse wrote:Purple Passion-

The University of San Diego is in the WCC.

UC-San Diego is a large state school and doesn't compete at the D1 level in most sports.

Fixed your post. UCSD does compete in D1 in fencing, water polo, and men's volleyball. There has been recent talk of adding women's soccer to their D1 portfolio, and they may have to in order to comply with title IX requirements.

by purple passion Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:28 pm

Thanks Stonehouse and Geez. I actually meant to type WCC, but obviously didn't. Are there any other WCC schools that are D2?

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:34 pm

purple passion wrote:Thanks Stonehouse and Geez. I actually meant to type WCC, but obviously didn't. Are there any other WCC schools that are D2?

No. The closest to that concept is probably USD, which plays football in the non-scholarship Pioneer Football Conference, one of only two conferences that doesn't allow scholarships for football in D1.

Can anyone name the other?

by A_Fan Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:55 pm

The Ivy League?

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:27 pm

Wow.

If these Pre-Season Rankings are any indication, the Pilots schedule will get lively almost right out the gate:

August 29 vs Oklahoma State (No. 22)
September 3 vs Wisconsin (No. 20)
September 10 vs Rutgers (No. 18)
September 12 vs Penn State (No. 13)
September 17 vs Texas A&M (No. Cool

September 23 vs Cal (No 14)
September 25 vs Stanford (No. 2)

When does Sophie leave to support the Canadian National Team?

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:51 pm

Purplepetunia wrote:

When does Sophie leave to support the Canadian National Team?

Nobody really knows yet. CONCACAF hasn't published a Gold Cup schedule yet. They did mumble something about "late October and early November".

We play four WCC teams after the 24th. The tournament starts nov. 12-14. Then there is the issue of how much before the Cup she will have to report to her team. I think she is the only college player not redshirting.

Figure she will miss the 4 games at least, possibly 2 more WCC games.

If the Gold Cup goes past the 12th, it won't be "early November" will it?

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:11 pm

hmmm... I'd feel slightly more comfortable if Sophie were present for the game against Santa Clara (October 24). If I am not mistaken, last year Sophie almost knocked the goal frame down twice from past 35 yards out. Although neither one of those shots went in, they certainly got SC's attention!

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:14 pm

A_Fan wrote:The Ivy League?

I suppose so, but that wasn't the conference I had in mind. Most of the Ivy's don't charge tuition or they grant tuition free schooling to all students, athlete or not.

The Patriot league used to not give scholarships, but they have backed off that and now allow limited scholarships.

The conference I had in mind is the Missouri Valley Football Conference, a football-only conference which is distinct from the Missouri Valley Conference.

by harryb Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:22 pm

I have a hunch that we'll miss Sophie less this year than most years, with the depth that the freshmen bring.

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:07 pm

And the coaching staff has 2 1/2 months to prepare for Sophie's sabatical.

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:12 pm

Mr. Geez,

Actually, Ivy League Schools do charge tuition (and lots of it!).

They don't offer athletic nor merit based academic scholarships since, in theory, every student that is accepted to one of these schools is at the academic high end.

Accept of course if you are one of the lucky ones whose family has a 'legacy' to one of these schools (i.e your daddy, grand daddy and/or great grand daddy attended there and donates lots of money there).

But they do offer 'need based' grants (depending on your financial status).

However, since the begining of the great recession these 'need based' grants have become smaller and smaller.

What I am trying to say is these schools are designed pretty much by and for the east coast rich and famous.

So it goes.

by Geezaldinho Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:23 pm

Purplepetunia wrote:Mr. Geez,

Actually, Ivy League Schools do charge tuition (and lots of it!).

They don't offer athletic nor merit based academic scholarships since, in theory, every student that is accepted to one of these schools is at the academic high end.

Accept of course if you are one of the lucky ones whose family has a 'legacy' to one of these schools (i.e your daddy, grand daddy and/or great grand daddy attended there and donates lots of money there).

But they do offer 'need based' grants (depending on your financial status).

However, since the begining of the great recession these 'need based' grants have become smaller and smaller.

What I am trying to say is these schools are designed pretty much by and for the east coast rich and famous.

So it goes.

Not quite right. as an example, I'll quote the statement on the Harvard website:

The “Zero to 10 Percent Standard”: Harvard’s new financial aid policy dramatically reduces the amount families with incomes below $180,000 will be expected to pay. Families with incomes above $120,000 and below $180,000 and with assets typical for these income levels will be asked to pay 10 percent of their incomes. For those with incomes below $120,000, the family contribution percentage will decline steadily from 10 percent, reaching zero for those with incomes at $60,000 and below. For example, a typical family making $120,000 will be asked to pay approximately $12,000 for a child to attend Harvard College, compared with more than $19,000 under existing student aid policies. For a typical family with $180,000 of income, the payment would be approximately $18,000, compared with more than $30,000 today. The new standard reduces the cost to families by one-third to one-half, making the price of a Harvard education for students on financial aid comparable to the cost of in-state tuition and fees at the nation’s leading public universities. The new initiative also establishes a standard that students and their families can easily understand.

So, if you go to Harvard and come from a middle income family, you aren't paying anything.

Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Princeton, university of Pensylvania (UP?) and Yale have similar programs. I haven't checked the rest, but their endowments are big enough to also allow them to follow suit, and I'm a betting man, so I'll just say they do.

None of those schools offer free tuition to everyone, of course. If you are a legacy , not so bright, and rich, your family will pay. I'm willing to bet George W. Bush didn't go to Yale for free (or probably his father).

Hell, I'm willing to bet the Bush family had to kick in a million or so to get their kid accepted.

And Mr. Geez was my father. I'm just the Geez.

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:56 pm

Geez,

Interesting, because I have a friend who I be would be willing to bet makes way less than $180K. Anyway his kid was supposedly recruited by Amherst.

My friend told me he thought he was going to have to pay < $20K/year but after his kid applied he was told he would have to pay $35K/year!!

Needless to say this kid is going to school somewhere else other than Amherst.

(But maybe my friend has me fooled and makes way more than what I thought he makes. Or maybe his kid isn't as smart as what my friend says he is.)

Oh well.

By the way, I like the name 'the Geez' way better than Mr. Geez. It reminds me of 'the Dude' from "The Big Lewbowski".

Later.

by Guest Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:07 pm

But I digress....

To get back on track, I am really looking foreward to this season's pre-season games against the likes of Penn State, Wisconsin, Cal and Stanford.

I think they will offer much more of a tune-up than last year's pre-season did (which should equate to a more competitive post-season).

Plus, I think these games will be much more entertaining to watch.

by Psychotic Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:16 pm

It seems TopSoccer and other used last year NCAA DI Women's Soccer Championship Bracket as a guideline. Does a poll exist that takes into account freshmen class in conjunction with returning players?

by Harry Redknapp Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:34 am

It's all total speculation based upon reputation and last year right now.

Rankings don't mean anything for a couple of weeks until some games have been played.

by Geezaldinho Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:42 am

Speaking of speculation, the Mac-Herman watch list came out today.

Three pilots are on the list, which I think matches the most on any other school ( BC, Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame also had 3)

Same rules as before. Make your guesses, then look at the list and report back.

http://www.nscaa.com/articles/20100811102102589.php

Do you think the article was written by someone from BC?

by Guest Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:18 am

Purplepetunia wrote:By the way, I like the name 'the Geez' way better than Mr. Geez. It reminds me of 'the Dude' from "The Big Lewbowski".

Reminds me more of "the Fonz". Razz

by Geezaldinho Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:32 am

Graham Hays is first out the gate with the WCC coaches poll.

Here's his last two tweets.

Portland picked to win WCC in day’s most predictable event since sunrise, but it wasn’t unanimous. Santa Clara picks up a first-place vote.
10 minutes ago via web

Then again, it was impossible for Portland to be a unanimous pick. Math was never my strong suit.
8 minutes ago via web

I'm more interested in how the rest of the conference ranks itself.

by Geezaldinho Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:48 am

Portlandpilots.com isn't far behind Graham. There was more typing involved.

This time you get to guess the order of finish in the WCC and UP's four All Conference first team selections.

http://www.portlandpilots.com/news/2010/8/11/WSOC_0811103507.aspx

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