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Post by Geezaldinho Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:43 pm

Here's a story by Aaron Fentress on how Clive has affected all four D1 programs in the State.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pilots/index.ssf/2009/11/post_2.html

If you think you are reading it twice -- you are.
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Post by fozziewozzie Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:51 pm

god bless clive an his memory!!
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Post by UPSoccerFanatic Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:01 pm

The article reminds me of something from a really great book about leadership:

There are people who other people follow, which is one level of leadership.

Then, there are people who other people respect as leaders, but who pass on their leadership "DNA," so that those other people themselves become leaders.

According to the book, the latter is the highest form of leadership. That's Clive.
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Post by Harry Redknapp Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:46 am

I think Clive has also inspired a whole generation of club and rec coaches around here too.
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Post by ktinpurple Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:06 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPMDd7oO3gs

I just love to watch this clip. What a great man.
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Post by SoreKnees Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:10 am

The team should watch this clip at about 6pm tonight.
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Post by fwill Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:19 am

Christine Sinclair - man, I miss watching her play!
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Post by ktinpurple Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:54 am

Me too! She plays all out all of the time. Very inspiring.
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Post by UPSoccerFanatic Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:10 pm

She also could have scored many more goals than she actually did, if she'd wanted to. I remember a bunch of times late in the game when the Pilots had it well in hand, seeing her pass up scoring opportunity after opportunity for herself, in order to set up chances for players such as Coleen Salisbury and Elsa Hume.
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Post by fozziewozzie Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:19 pm

the thing i loved best about sinc is that, if she wanted the ball, she got the ball!! i saw her make so many plays depossessing a player with the ball that after so long i just came to expect it.
after our gals won the title in 2005 an there was a rally held downtown in pioneer square, my favorite question was, 'christine, would you consider becoming a u.s. citizen so we can continue watching you?'
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Post by purple haze Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:54 am

I've considered becoming a Canadian citizen so I could continue watching her.
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Post by Harry Redknapp Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:07 pm

It's been said before but is worth repeating. If Christine played on teh USA team she would be an even bigger star than she is now and would have scored a boat load of goals.
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Post by onetouchfutbol Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:13 pm

purple haze wrote:I've considered becoming a Canadian citizen so I could continue watching her.

You could just get some tickets to see the Bay area team instead...
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Post by Geezaldinho Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Harry Redknapp wrote:It's been said before but is worth repeating. If Christine played on teh USA team she would be an even bigger star than she is now and would have scored a boat load of goals.

Last I heard, she HAS scored a boat load of goals.
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Post by fozziewozzie Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:35 pm

even when sinc playyed here at u of p, i always thought that she was one of the top three players in the world.

like 'arry said, if she did play for the u.s., she would be unequivocally the best player in the world. but, the homer i am, i do think she is the best player in the world. she does more with less!!
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Post by purple haze Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:51 am

I do hope to get down south to see Christine play in the pro league next season.

She deserves to play for a medal in the Olympics or World Cup.
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Post by Harry Redknapp Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:03 am

Geez

You're right, of course. She has scored a lot of goals. I meant that she would have scored even more playing for the US, she would be ebtter known because the US is a stronger team (and would have been better with her).

Who knows, maybe Tiff would have gottent o play for the national team longer - she still has what it takes and they are a great combination.
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Post by SoreKnees Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:12 am

Or maybe April Heinrichs would have put her at holding midfield to hammer the ball long for Abby Wham-bash. It's hard to know how (and whether) the US coaching staff would have used her.

As good as Christine is, it's sure that she would have had many fewer caps as a teenager if she had to break into the US side.
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Post by fan from afar Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:22 am

When I saw them both in person playing for their national teams last year, I watched them both closely. My impression is that Christine is a much more complete player than Abby. I think they would have made a fantastic attacking combination, although Soreknees' point about Heinrichs and the dark days of US soccer is a good one.
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Post by fwill Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:36 am

I'm not a big Abby Wham-bash fan. Her technical skills aren't all that great, she's not fast, and her specialty seems to be falling down and taking penalty kicks. If one were to remove her pk's from her overall goal totals, her numbers go down dramatically. However, she does have a size advantage and seems to know where the goal is at all times, so she works pretty well as a cherry-picker. I prefer players that are technically sound, more like Natasha Kai or, of course, Sinclair.
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Post by UPSoccerFanatic Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:29 pm

I think Abby gets a bad rap from a lot of people. Among other things, I think she's an excellent passer. An Abby-Christine front pair would be awesome, enhancing both of their scoring numbers.
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Post by fan from afar Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:35 pm

I agree UPSF about Abby taking undeserved raps. After all, she has scored 100+ international goals. The only point I wanted to make is that I think Christine is a more well-rounded player, and that the two would have been a fantastic combination up front - they would have complimented each other well.
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Post by Harry Redknapp Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:48 pm

Abby Wambach is obviously not a bad player - you don't score that many goals in international soccer if you are a donkey. But her ball skills are not in the same class as Sinc. Look at the quality of their first touch on the ball: and I think you will see the difference.


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Post by fozziewozzie Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:57 pm

i like abby a lot, but i agree that christine is the much better all around player! this was posted at some other time in another thread, but its worth another view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKdJ37yPfHU&feature=channel
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Post by fan from afar Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:59 am

Thanks, Fozzie - I love that interview. I was actually thinking about it when I suggested the they would have been a dominating pair and would have complemented each other well. Interesting that Abby made Harry's point that Christine has such a great first touch
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