NCAA noise rule for sports (drums)- What the hey?
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NCAA noise rule for sports (drums)- What the hey?
Back in the early days of Ritmo Piloto/ The Villa Drum Squad; I remember being told that drumming is NOT allowed at playoff games. I can understand the NCAA power committee trying to keep it as neutral as possible but... come on, this is soccer! Do bands play at college Football Bowl games accidentally play during plays? Does a band playing at a college basketball playoff game timeout have any influence on the opposing team? I would think so. Funny how there is no rules about shouting through bullhorns at players, possibly distracting them but someone can't hit a drum or bang a cowbell. I wonder if the events staff is prepared to apprehend any rogue cow bell players?
I have always wanted to read the NCAA rule on this. Does anyone have access to the wording of the official rule?
I have always wanted to read the NCAA rule on this. Does anyone have access to the wording of the official rule?
Trenchcoat Wally- Bench Warmer
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I believe that the rule pertains to "artificial noise makers" which... I would think that the university could sanction them as a "pep band" and skirt that rule.
I would actually think the megaphone would fit into this rule more precisely.
I would actually think the megaphone would fit into this rule more precisely.
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The rule specifically applies to "artificial noise makers," as aleppiek stated. The rule for soccer is different than the rules for basketball and football. For basketball, we (the band) can't play whenever we want to. Can't play DURING play, only during timeouts and the like. I've yet to see a college bowl game or NCAA tournament basketball game where one of the bands plays "by accident."
Villa, in the past, has gotten around the "no drumming" rule by playing only during a stoppage of the game (a goal, or something). Only way they really get away with it is that they know if they screw it up Athletics will send Public Safety after them. A few years ago they tried to circumvent the rules by leaving the stadium and drumming while standing on the sidewalk behind the goal. That got stopped rather quickly. In 2002 at Stanford, the Stanford folks took the drums away from Villa before they got into the stadium and held on to them until after the game.
Villa, in the past, has gotten around the "no drumming" rule by playing only during a stoppage of the game (a goal, or something). Only way they really get away with it is that they know if they screw it up Athletics will send Public Safety after them. A few years ago they tried to circumvent the rules by leaving the stadium and drumming while standing on the sidewalk behind the goal. That got stopped rather quickly. In 2002 at Stanford, the Stanford folks took the drums away from Villa before they got into the stadium and held on to them until after the game.
PilotDrummer- First man off the Bench
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Are the metal bleachers considered "artificial noise makers"? We can make a lot of noise with them.
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Right from the rule book (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/soccer/2008/1_wsoccer_handbook.pdf):
Cheerleaders, Mascots, Bands and Banners
Cheerleaders and/or spirit team members, not to exceed 12 in number plus the mascot, shall be admitted, if in uniform, via the gate list furnished to the host institution by the competing institution’s director of athletics; all other institutional representatives will be admitted only on presentation of a ticket.
A maximum of 12 cheerleaders and/or spirit team members shall be allowed on the field during the progress of the game. The cheerleaders shall be stationed opposite their respective institution’s playing area designated by the tournament manager.
Cheerleading squads should be located in the end zone or sideline area outside of the playing surface on the end of the field where their respective teams are located. It is ideal if this area is barricaded from the field. At no point should the cheerleaders enter the area behind the goals.
Band members, not to exceed 25 in number, who are in uniform and performing at the championship, will not be charged admission to the competition. Bands, or any component thereof, are allowed to play during timeouts, between games, and before and after the competition.
All cheerleading squads must conform to the guidelines set by the American Association of Cheerleading Coaches and Advisors (AACCA). Neither the NCAA nor the host institution shall be responsible for supervising or monitoring routines performed by cheerleaders at championship events. Except as noted in this section, supervision of cheerleading squads, their activities, yells and stunts is solely the participating institution’s responsibility. The participating institution shall ensure that the squad has sufficient training, supervision and equipment for any and all routines its squad may choose to perform. Tournament managers must inform participating institutions if the host facility has more stringent requirements. If so, the director of athletics at each institution must apprise his or her cheerleading squad of such requirements and ensure compliance. The cheerleading squad is allowed to carry an institutional flag, but it may only be displayed during the respective teams’ timeout or between games. It cannot be used to taunt competitors or block spectator’s view.
The use of trampolines, stunts more than two persons high, “basket tosses” and cheerleader flips is not permitted. Tournament managers must inform participants if the host facility has more stringent restrictions, which shall be applied. If necessary, the director of athletics at each institution shall be asked to apprise the appropriate individuals of this policy and ensure their cooperation.
The display of banners is subject to the approval of the games committee.
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PilotDrummer- First man off the Bench
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SoreKnees wrote:Are the metal bleachers considered "artificial noise makers"? We can make a lot of noise with them.
Yes- Therefore all bleachers will be removed from Merlo Field. All fans will be placed in large plastic gerbil balls where no sound can escape. Sort of like 'The cone of silence' from Get Smart.
Trenchcoat Wally- Bench Warmer
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UCLA took away Villa's drums last year. I thought it was a "homer" thing until I was advised on this board that the drums were not allowed during the playoffs. We need some of those "hidden" outdoor wireless speakers that look like rocks scattered around the field and "pipe" the drums in from a remote location. They would never know what hit em.
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Also from the rulebook (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/general/2008-09/1_General.pdf):
Guess those rock speakers won't work either.
Artificial Noisemakers. Artificial noisemakers, air horns and electronic amplifiers shall not be permitted, and such instruments shall be removed from the playing and spectator areas. Bands, or any component thereof, shall not play while the game is in progress. The tournament manager shall be responsible for enforcing these provisions.
Guess those rock speakers won't work either.
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Guess there won't be beer in the Pilot Club, either:
Tobacco Products and Alcoholic Beverages.
Alcoholic beverages and tobacco products shall not be sold or otherwise made available for public consumption at any championship event sponsored by or administered by the Association, nor shall any such beverages or products be brought to the site during the championship (i.e., during the period from the time access to the site is available to spectators until all patrons have left the facility or area used for competition).
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The use of trampolines, stunts more than two persons high, “basket tosses” and cheerleader flips is not permitted.
Rats- I was looking forward to a 'Tripple Lindy leap' from the Chiles Center to the field after we score.
Trenchcoat Wally- Bench Warmer
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OOOO cone of silence
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PilotDrummer wrote:
The display of banners is subject to the approval of the games committee.
How would I go about contacting them?
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Wonder if it also means I can't set of my car alarm after a Pilot goal......Trenchcoat Wally wrote:The use of trampolines, stunts more than two persons high, “basket tosses” and cheerleader flips is not permitted.
Rats- I was looking forward to a 'Tripple Lindy leap' from the Chiles Center to the field after we score.
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Not sure. I'd probably "just do it" and apologize if you're in the wrong. Big banner like the SCU game planned?ohhh_yeah wrote:How would I go about contacting them?PilotDrummer wrote:
The display of banners is subject to the approval of the games committee.
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Bring Little Aleppiek. He looks like a real noise maker.
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PilotDrummer wrote:Not sure. I'd probably "just do it" and apologize if you're in the wrong. Big banner like the SCU game planned?ohhh_yeah wrote:How would I go about contacting them?PilotDrummer wrote:
The display of banners is subject to the approval of the games committee.
at least 2 of them...
ohhh_yeah- Pilot Nation Regular
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
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There is only one real way for the NCAA to keep fans quiet:
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Is that the sound of silence, DaTruRochin?
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Only if Simon and Garfunkel were playing over the loudspeakers...
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Auto Pilot wrote:Bring Little Aleppiek. He looks like a real noise maker.
Usually he isn't but after his immunizations yesterday he was a bit more "vocal" if you will. Hopefully he is feeling better this evening.
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wow....just wow DTR
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Yeah that was borderline NSFW.
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Speaking of cheerleaders and mascots, does anyone else remember Notre Dame bringing that annoying little leprechaun twerp to Merlo many years ago? Perhaps it was to the Final Four. I don't I've ever been so annoyed by an opponent...
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