New Website: RPI for Division I Women's Soccer

Lots of great information there on both sites. If you guys haven't been checking them both out, you are missing a real education in how the RPI works. On goCourage's site, you can even watch the RPI change over the course of the day as results come in from coast to coast.

And his site (the second one UPSF mentions), is the quickest and most complete one of the reporting sites week after week.

This week, my amazement is that UCF has the second highest strength of schedule and the second highest NCRPI. I wouldn't have expected that.

This is great stuff.

A quick heads up: The NCAA comes out with its first RPI report tomorrow. Adjusted RPI, rankings only. I'll also have out my detailed report along with individual teams' Non-Conference RPIs, average RPIs by conference, and average RPIs by region. Once the NCAA report is out, I get to check, among other things, how the NCAA has done with data gathering. I'm wondering whether they know about the upheld protest in the Mercer v Georgia State game.

A new RPI Report covering games through October 4 now is available on the RPI website, using the following link: http://sites.google.com/site/rpiford...er/rpi-reports

There also is a detailed Non-Conference RPI Report.

Both reports are in the form of Excel spreadsheets that are attachments at the bottom of the page.

Within the page, there also are average adjusted RPIs by conference and by geographic region.

The NCAA's first "official" RPI report for the 2009 season now is available at the following link: http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2009WSOrpi1.html

Hmm... the link to your website isn't working. I downloaded both RPI reports earlier, but it seems broken now.

Nice job on the RPI, by the way. It looks like you are really close, and when the issues like correctly logging home-away-neutral get settled, I'm sure you'll be even closer.

I'm sure you are in full sleuthing mode now

Geezaldinho wrote:Hmm... the link to your website isn't working. I downloaded both RPI reports earlier, but it seems broken now.

I think it's a Google Sites problem. Sometimes it works going directly to one of the "sub-pages" and sometimes it doesn't. Maybe the best thing to do is go to the home page and from there to the RPI Reports page. Here's the home page link: http://sites.google.com/site/rpifordivisioniwomenssoccer/

If any of you have interest in predicting the bracket for the NCAA Tournament, I've created a new page on the RPI website that has some guidelines to follow in order to use the NCAA's bi-weekly RPI reports as a resource for predictions. It uses the bi-weekly reports from the 2007 and 2008 seasons and the actual brackets from those seasons as the data base for the guidelines. I've started with the first of the bi-weekly reports for those years, and how they relate to the ultimate bracket, to develop the guidelines for how to use that first report. When we get the next report, I'll post guidelines for how to use that report.

For the guidelines and how I developed them, use the following link: http://sites.google.com/site/rpifordivisioniwomenssoccer/predicting-the-bracket

Just as a teaser, with the Pac 10 having seven teams currently ranked #22 or better in the NCAA RPI rankings, it is pretty highly likely that all of those teams will get into the tournament. Check out the guidelines and how I developed them to see why.

New RPI reports now are available covering games through October l8, using the following link:

http://sites.google.com/site/rpifordivisioniwomenssoccer/

The link will take you to the RPI website Home Page. From there, go to the "RPI Reports" page

Since the NCAA is supposed to issue its second "interim" RPI report today, that will be the report most will want to use for RPI ranking purposes. The RPI reports at the above link will show the details from which the NCAA RPI rankings are derived.

What other criteria does the seeding comm use to pick the seeds? Are they looking at NC rpi besides the adjusted one. seems like last year one of the top RPI teams got dropped from a seed somehow?

UPSF,

I am sure it is safe to assume you saw the discrepancy in Mississippi's Record between your RPI and the NCAA's. That must've been a good win to jump them from 31-20 in the RPI. Despite the flawed data you have received, fantastic job as always.

aleppiek wrote:UPSF,

I am sure it is safe to assume you saw the discrepancy in Mississippi's Record between your RPI and the NCAA's. That must've been a good win to jump them from 31-20 in the RPI. Despite the flawed data you have received, fantastic job as always.

Yup, in my "audit" process, I found that error (v Arkansas) and some others. I'm in the process of producing a new report.

gnarly wrote:What other criteria does the seeding comm use to pick the seeds? Are they looking at NC rpi besides the adjusted one. seems like last year one of the top RPI teams got dropped from a seed somehow?

The answer to your question depends on how much information you want. Rather than try to answer here, I'll direct you to the RPI website and where to look there. I'll put the link to the website home page below.

Once at the home page, use the navigation bar on the upper left of the page to go to the different pages.

The first page you will want to look at is "NCAA Selection, Seeding, and Bracketing Criteria." This provides a comprehensive review of the criteria.

If you want to know how the NCAA has applied the criteria in actual practice, go next to the "NCAA Actual Tournament Practices" page. This covers how the NCAA applied the criteria in 2007 and 2008. In particular, I suggest you look at both the Selection and the Seeding sections for 2008, since among other things they discuss how the Women's Soccer Committee most likely used the Non-Conference RPI in making some critical at large selection and seeding decisions.

If you want more information on the Non-Conference RPI, go to the "Non-Conference RPI" page.

Finally, if you want even more information about the Non-Conference RPI, including data from which you can form an opinion on whether it's a legitimate criterion, go to the "RPI Compared to Other Systems" page.

All of this probably will be more information than you want, so just stop when you have gotten enough info.

By the way, if you want to print one of the pages, there's a "click on" command for printing at the bottom of each page.

Here's the home page link: http://sites.google.com/site/rpifordivisioniwomenssoccer/

For those following the RPI reports, I've just posted on the RPI website an updated report with corrections for some data errors I had in my system. They don't make much difference for the teams most of us follow.

For those interested, based on what happened in 2007 and 2008 looking at the RPI rankings as of this point in the season:

1. The four #1 seeds are likely to come from the top six teams in the current rankings: Stanford (1), North Carolina (2), Portland (3), Central Florida (4), Florida State (5), and UCLA (6).

2. For the other 12 seeds, they are likely to come from the top 30 in the current rankings, which includes Santa Clara (13), USC (14), Washington State (22), Texas A&M (23), California (24), Arizona State (25), and Oregon State (26).

3. It is likely that the top 32 in the current rankings will make the Tournament bracket. In addition to the teams mentioned above, this includes Washington (31).

4. Teams ranked 33 through 71 should be considered currently "on the bubble." These include Oregon (34), Colorado College (35), Illinois (39), Miami (43), Pepperdine (57), San Diego (61), and St Mary's (67). Loyola Marymount at 73 is just outside this group.

5. If all of the current top 32 make it into the bracket, they represent nine conferences. If the top 32 include the champions of each of those conferences, as seems likely, then the remaining 23 teams are likely to get at large positions in the bracket. Since there are 34 at large positions altogether, this means that the 39 "bubble" teams likely will be competing for 11 positions in the bracket.

There may be outliers who make it into the bracket (#93 as of this point in the season has made it in), or who currently are highly ranked but don't make it into the bracket (#22 as of this point has been left out), but more likely the above "guidelines" will hold.

So UNC loses twice on the weekend and still has a substantial lead over us in RPI? (According to the nc-soccer site.) Florida State overtakes us and UCLA is on our heels and sure to by-pass us if they win their remaining games?

Can we possibly end up with a #2 seed even if we win out? Ugggh!