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Re: spring training
Janelle: She, like a couple other players, was playing other than her normal position on Sat. I would expect that some situations arose during the scrimmage that she hadn’t seen as a midfielder and she didn’t know how to react, and Smith was addressing that. Agreed, probably a bit short on confidence in the new position. After the scrimmage she corralled Smith and asked him some additional questions. Aiming to get better.
Keelin: I don’t recall ever hearing her call for the punt. I’ll have to pay closer attention to the sounds rather than just the visual. I have no problem hearing Kelsey or Hailee directing traffic.
Kelsey: Any word on how she is doing?
Elli: Fellow sitting near me made the same observation of Elli. She is now passing the ball rather than running in to a crowd and losing it as was often the case last year.
Our three of our US U20s: Does the obvious improvement come from physical maturing, self confidence, competition with other U20s, feedback from national coaches? Probably a bit of all, but as several have noted, their improved and intense play is quite noticeable.
On a personal note: This is an open forum. Many of us chip in with our opinions and observations. No one censors our comments, although I expect there are limits as to what would be allowed. That said, a couple of recent posts hit me pretty hard. I felt they were a bit derogatory of some of the players. It is one thing to point out an area in which a player is deficient. I see that as constructive criticism: if the player can improve in that area, they will be a better player. Even if they make the improvement, they may not be as good as player A or player B, but they would still be a better player. But to comment that some players don’t have the skills or temperament or physical capabilities, well I didn’t feel comfortable reading that. I may not disagree, but it still feels uncomfortable to read. The coaches saw enough good in all of them to ask to come play for UP. Admittedly not all have continued to improve, certainly not all at the same rate, and maybe some are near the upper limit of their abilities. But I feel that all of the young women are giving their best effort. And I would hate if a player or her friends or family googled their name and encountered some of our less salutatory comments. Now I step off the soap box.
Keelin: I don’t recall ever hearing her call for the punt. I’ll have to pay closer attention to the sounds rather than just the visual. I have no problem hearing Kelsey or Hailee directing traffic.
Kelsey: Any word on how she is doing?
Elli: Fellow sitting near me made the same observation of Elli. She is now passing the ball rather than running in to a crowd and losing it as was often the case last year.
Our three of our US U20s: Does the obvious improvement come from physical maturing, self confidence, competition with other U20s, feedback from national coaches? Probably a bit of all, but as several have noted, their improved and intense play is quite noticeable.
On a personal note: This is an open forum. Many of us chip in with our opinions and observations. No one censors our comments, although I expect there are limits as to what would be allowed. That said, a couple of recent posts hit me pretty hard. I felt they were a bit derogatory of some of the players. It is one thing to point out an area in which a player is deficient. I see that as constructive criticism: if the player can improve in that area, they will be a better player. Even if they make the improvement, they may not be as good as player A or player B, but they would still be a better player. But to comment that some players don’t have the skills or temperament or physical capabilities, well I didn’t feel comfortable reading that. I may not disagree, but it still feels uncomfortable to read. The coaches saw enough good in all of them to ask to come play for UP. Admittedly not all have continued to improve, certainly not all at the same rate, and maybe some are near the upper limit of their abilities. But I feel that all of the young women are giving their best effort. And I would hate if a player or her friends or family googled their name and encountered some of our less salutatory comments. Now I step off the soap box.
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UPWomenSoccerRookie- Recruit

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Re: spring training
UPWSR - I've only seen one spring exhibition match, but your comment on Elli I wholeheartedly agree with. She wasn't holding the ball too long, as many of us complained last season. She not only is a great passer, but when she makes a run, then cuts into the middle to look for an open player to pass to, she looks awfully dangerous. When she runs it all the way down the line, she seems to always get behind the defenders and then can either make a cross in front of the goal, or cut in and give herself a decent shot at a goal.
She and Michelle attacking together in the offensive third must be a terrible sight for an opponent's defenders and GK.
She and Michelle attacking together in the offensive third must be a terrible sight for an opponent's defenders and GK.

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Re: spring training
Something I have wondered about, in relation to Elli's holding the ball last year. This also applies to Kendra this year. It also applies to Lindsay Huie her first couple of years. They all were taking the ball down the side, trying to turn the corner at the end line. Garrett seems to give players the leeway to do this. Although it may seem like the players are holding the ball too long and losing it often, there may be tactical reasons to have this as part of what the team does. Specifically, all of those players are able to draw multiple defenders and also to make their defenders cover more of the field. Over the course of a game, this tends to create space in the middle and to wear down defenders. I do know that Garrett likes his players to take the ball up the side to open up space.
Elli's now looking the better passer and not holding the ball so long may partly be a function of her being asked to fill a different role. I think the same was true of Huie her senior year. So, maybe there's some tactical design to this.
Those of you who are soccer tactics experts, what do you think?
Elli's now looking the better passer and not holding the ball so long may partly be a function of her being asked to fill a different role. I think the same was true of Huie her senior year. So, maybe there's some tactical design to this.
Those of you who are soccer tactics experts, what do you think?

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Re: spring training
I don't lay claim to be a tactics expert but I do have my opinion. Look at Marta (subject of considerable discourse on this forum
She is considered at least among the top three women players in the world. I have watched her play and she simply does what she wants with defenders; one two or even three and she holds the ball. I contend that kind of confidence comes from taking players on the dribble under match play conditions. Therefore, even though it gets frustrating sometimes watching a particular player lose posession when they could have sliped it off early. I respect a player's need to learn from situations and play fearlessly.
The only other tactic I would like to see some change in this year is players taking shots further out to prevent the opposition from bunkering. Of course I love to watch posession feet to feet. However, I think using space is also vital and we all know we have the speed all over the field to run on. As I watch the college game get more professional, we do not want other teams to "get our number" on how we play. My motto has always been take what they give you then take some more.
The only other tactic I would like to see some change in this year is players taking shots further out to prevent the opposition from bunkering. Of course I love to watch posession feet to feet. However, I think using space is also vital and we all know we have the speed all over the field to run on. As I watch the college game get more professional, we do not want other teams to "get our number" on how we play. My motto has always been take what they give you then take some more.
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