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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:00 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:UP is now ranked 9th and St Maryís is #10. The conference RPI just jumped to #4.

And the two WCC schools are two of only four teams to remain undefeated, the others being Kentucky and Denver
RPI this morning shows SMC at #9 and UP at #10....seems fair considering the results this past weekend.

The WCC jumped to #3 behind the ACC and Pac-12.

#8 Kentucky is no longer undefeated after falling to #104 Florida International, 4-3.

1. Indiana
2. UNC
3. Wake Forest
4. Notre Dame
5. Virginia
6, Louisville
7. Syracuse
8. Kentucky
9. St. Mary's
10. Portland
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:50 pm

The United Soccer Coaches poll is out for Week 7:

1 University of North Carolina
2 Wake Forest University
3 University of Denver
4 Indiana University
5 University of Kentucky
6 Saint Mary's College of California
7 University of Portland
8 Michigan State University
9 University of Notre Dame
10 Stanford University
11 University of Louisville
12 Creighton University
13 University of North Carolina-Wilmington
14 University of Virginia
15 United States Air Force Academy
16 University of Michigan
17 Duke University
18 Cornell University
19 University of Central Florida
20 University of Connecticut
21 UCLA
22 Coastal Carolina University
23 Wright State University
24 Syracuse University
25 Missouri State University

Pretty sure this is the highest the Pilots have ever been ranked by the coaches... studyShocked
http://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Geezaldinho on Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:26 pm

Before the coaches poll was run by the NSCAA, it was run by Soccer America.
Those were also coaches who voted.
The Pilots hit #7 then, also.
https://portlandpilots.com/news/2000/8/30/64467.aspx?path=msoc


Iím trying to imagine they werenít ranked higher during the college cups the two times they made it.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Stonehouse on Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:Iím trying to imagine they werenít ranked higher during the college cups the two times they made it.

I tried to do some looking online for polls from 88 and 95, but couldn't find anything. It's possible we were ranked higher in 88... we were one of eight teams to receive a bye into the second round of the playoffs, so we were at least considered to be in the Top 8 by the RPI or whatever metric they used then. We were 19-0-0 when the playoffs began.

The 1995 team was 11-0-3 at one point during that season... wouldn't surprise me if they were ranked in the top 5.

I seem to remember that for a brief, shinning moment we were ranked #1 in 2000, before Clive Charles (and Conor Casey) left the team for the Olympics and the wheels totally fell of the cart of that season. I could be wrong on that though.... that was when there were something like 6 different men's soccer polls.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by PilotNut on Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:31 am

This is great news... very exciting! bounce

I had the same exact thought when I read that this was the highest ranking ever for the men's team--while I don't have anything specific either, I have to think we were ranked higher than this at some point in the 90s...

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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Stonehouse on Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:37 am

PilotNut wrote:I had the same exact thought when I read that this was the highest ranking ever for the men's team--while I don't have anything specific either, I have to think we were ranked higher than this at some point in the 90s...

Best guess I have is that men's college soccer polling was pretty weird in the 80s/90s... there were a bunch of different polls that often differed from one another quite a bit, and maybe none of them were considered the "official" poll like the coaches poll is now? I don't know, but I'm happy to aimlessly speculate... as is duty of any true message board poster! Wink
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:06 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
PilotNut wrote:I had the same exact thought when I read that this was the highest ranking ever for the men's team--while I don't have anything specific either, I have to think we were ranked higher than this at some point in the 90s...

Best guess I have is that men's college soccer polling was pretty weird in the 80s/90s... there were a bunch of different polls that often differed from one another quite a bit, and maybe none of them were considered the "official" poll like the coaches poll is now? I don't know, but I'm happy to aimlessly speculate... as is duty of any true message board poster! †Wink

There actually is no "official" poll for NCAA soccer. And, the Men's Soccer Committee cannot consider polls when making at large selections for the NCAA Tournament. For seeding? That's a little murkier.

The only official rankings are the RPI rankings. Those are the only rankings the Committee can consider for at large selections.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:26 pm

Game Day!!

This month's WCC All-Access on ROOT featured the Villa Drum Squad in the first segment....

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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:27 pm

From the seats the 4-0 win seemed pretty easy compared to some of the games this year, but beating #116 LMU probably won't do anything to improve UP's #11 RPI.

Sunday's 2:30 game against #129 USD is the last regular season game at Merlo until the anticipated showdown against #9 SMC in the final game of the WCC season on November 10....gotta stay focused!
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:52 pm

Nice to see Rey back.†

It seemed to me the whole team intensity picked up when he came on the pitch in the second half.

I think he played more minutes than they intended when he came back in for Benji when he got dinged up.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by SoreKnees on Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:59 pm

A good result last night, and a decent performance. In my experience, LMU are always a very physical side, pushing the edge of what the referee allows (and sometimes beyond). Josh Wilkens, the referee, mostly kept the game well in hand and was not afraid to issue the well-deserved second caution to the LMU player in the second half.

It was good to see Ortiz back, even if briefly, and I hope that Michel is not seriously injured. It didn't look bad to me, but one never knows. The team are not the same without those two on the pitch.

Kudos to Shane Aranda, who filled in more than adequately for the suspended Jake Arteaga, who has himself been very impressive all season.

LMU had a good plan for Michel, using the offside trap to good effect in the first half and double-teaming him most of the match. He didn't trouble the scorekeeper, but the Pilots scored four. This side has a lot of quality depth and can hurt an opponent so many ways. Coach C-V had magic in his halftime talk, because the team came out much more composed in the second half, moving the ball more quickly and smoothly and never really giving LMU much of a look on the attack.

Good performance in the kind of somewhat ugly game that good teams have to win. More of the same on Sunday, please!
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by SouthCarolinaPilot on Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:25 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:...the anticipated showdown against #9 SMC in the final game of the WCC season on November 10....gotta stay focused!

That Saint Mary's team just beat San Francisco 8-0 after a 7-goal second half!
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:52 pm

SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:That Saint Mary's team just beat San Francisco 8-0 after a 7-goal second half!
And just like that, SMC moves to #8 while UP drops to #12.

SMC, 13-0 (2-0), has outscored its opponents 12-0 in after two games of WCC play, and has allowed only four goals in 13 games.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:25 pm

Interesting that neither match recap even mentions a USF straight red card occurred.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by SouthCarolinaPilot on Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:06 pm

I guess no one wants to talk about the Draw against USD? I was not able to watch, so I cannot offer any thoughts.

We are still in good standing for a playoff berth, but we will likely have to win out and beat SMC to get the WCC crown and auto-berth.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Sound Voltex on Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:44 pm

SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:I guess no one wants to talk about the Draw against USD? I was not able to watch, so I cannot offer any thoughts.

We are still in good standing for a playoff berth, but we will likely have to win out and beat SMC to get the WCC crown and auto-berth.

USD scored on a penalty kick in the 2nd minute. Then for the next 80 or so minutes it was missed opportunities, a tough USD team, and nothing really going the Pilots way. Somewhere near the end Benji went down in the USD box and left the game, Rey couldn't capitalize on the PK, almost looked like it was over. Then Dixon came into save the day and our hearts. Then for the rest of the game it was kinda back to how it was those previous 80 minutes until the final whistle.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:49 pm

Haha, yeah that about sums it up.

Not to second guess having Rey in the game, let alone having him take the PK attempt, but he did not look to be in game shape nor near his best while apparently still recovering from his groin injury. †Having said that, Rey at less than 100% is better than most.

One of the intriguing aspects of the game outside the lines was the USD coach exploding at Coach Nick for at least two or three minutes after a USD player went down from a foul. †I yelled at Nick to not react (I sit behind the UP bench), and he didn't, but it seemed the coach was accusing Nick of dirty tactics.

I'm not fully fluent in Irish accented English (I don't think it was Gaelic), maybe Geezer, who sits right behind the visitor bench, or someone else could better tell what he was saying.

I was impressed that Portland kept going higher and higher in attempt to score, but were still able to retreat on defense in the second half, but I too have been waiting for someone who knows a lot more about soccer to give their impressions of the game.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:19 pm

Getting a direct translation was a bit like listening to Bigs when he was excited ( almost never )

Their coach went on about almost everything. At one point he complained to the linesman about a ball into touch. I yelled at him that if he wanted the call, he shouldnít stand on the touch line blocking the linesmanís view.

I know he heard me because he stepped back.


I think he thought that we should have kicked the ball out when the injured player went down. Thing is, it was non critical and †his hurt guy is the one who committed the foul. The ref played advantage.



I told him to catch his breath and take a sip of water to calm down.
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by SoreKnees on Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:16 am

I agree with most of what has been said. It's a shame that we didn't score the penalty and win the match, but overall we didn't deserve more than a point.

I kind of feel the same way about this one as about the women vs. UO: a game they should have won, but the other team out-hustled them, getting to loose balls more quickly and closing the Pilots down on the ball before they had a chance to be dangerous.

As well as Shane Aranda played on Friday, and he was not bad on Sunday either, the Pilots' game changed when Jake Arteaga came on at about 60'. He has an amazing knack for (1) always finding space to receive a pass, (2) knowing exactly what he wants to do with the ball before it arrives, and (3) doing it successfully. I won't be at all surprised if he ends up being a national team player in a few years. I think he's that good!

Rey was stretching and rubbing his groin muscles before he went off, so I assume he re-injured himself. Do any insiders have any info on Benji's injury? It will be difficult to finish the conference season successfully if both of them are out of the lineup. All in all, it's a good time to have a week off!
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Re: 2018 Season

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:07 pm

SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:We are still in good standing for a playoff berth, but we will likely have to win out and beat SMC to get the WCC crown and auto-berth.
Yeah, surprisingly UP dropped only two spots to #9 in the Coaches Poll, and from #12 to #15 in the all-important RPI.

http://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx

https://amp.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/ncaa-mens-soccer-rpi

SMC is now #4 in the nation according to the coaches, with an RPI of #9.
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