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Pilots guard Crisshawn Clark Sues Head Coach!!

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:52 pm

No, Crisshawn is NOT suing Terry Porter, he's filed a lawsuit against Ducks Head Coach Dana Altman and his staff!

Interesting....Crisshawn will probably graduate before this is resolved, but besides the financial implications, will the NCAA have anything to say?

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/10/university_of_portland_basketb.html
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Re: Pilots guard Crisshawn Clark Sues Head Coach!!

Post by Stonehouse on Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:36 pm

Yeesh. OregonLive comment sections are notoriously toxic, but the one here is particularly bad. What's up with the angry Duck fans?

My "favorite" one begins like this: "If UP ever has the balls to schedule Oregon again..."

The ending is a bit too much for a family forum like this, but sheesh... does this guy actually think it's UP that doesn't have the guts to play UO? Laughable. Any time they want to schedule a home-and-home, I guarantee the Pilots will be there. But it will never happen under Altman, unlike Ernie Kent.
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Post by blacksheep on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:36 pm

Damn it Stoney, I took the bait and read through some of the comments. I'm glad I don't do that on a regular basis.

I also read the actual complaint that was posted. Clark must not have been able to find an attorney to take the case because he's representing himself.
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Post by Dean Murdoch on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:21 pm

Wow, and all of Crisshawn's contact info is right there in the article. OregonLive couldn't have had the decency to black that out before posting? Hope he's not dealing with random crazies texting him fresh out of that comment section.
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Post by blacksheep on Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:09 am

Yeah, I saw that too. I started to mention it in my comment, but decided I didn't want to point it out. †Hopefully duck fans don't bother to read the actual complaint.
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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:20 pm

Contact info is sharpied out.

I wonder if anybody called him on it? Red Card!


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Post by DoubleDipper on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:15 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:Contact info is sharpied out.

I wonder if anybody called him on it? Red Card! Wink
Haha, if you're talking about the author Tyson Alger......oh, I imagine someone did!

From what I can gather, this lawsuit caught the UP staff totally flat-footed; they knew nothing until reading the O-Live article or spotting it on PilotNation.
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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:47 pm

Wait...


Coaches read PN?

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Post by wrv on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:01 pm

We should at least recognize Mr. Clark's courage for filing this lawsuit "In pro se." Abraham Lincoln admonished those who would represent themselves as having fools for a client, but despite honest Abe's cautionary language, it takes real guts to file a calm like this against a large institution, even when you feel you are in the right, as Crisshawn clearly feels he is.

Bully for Crisshawn and good luck.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:13 pm

wrv wrote:We should at least recognize Mr. Clark's courage for filing this lawsuit "In pro se." Abraham Lincoln admonished those who would represent themselves as having fools for a client, but despite honest Abe's cautionary language, it takes real guts to file a calm like this against a large institution, even when you feel you are in the right, as Crisshawn clearly feels he is.

Bully for Crisshawn and good luck.

You really think that filing was by a college student?

If so, give him his graduate †degree and send him to his State bar exam.


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Post by wrv on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:33 pm

No way do I believe that Crisshawn drafted the complaint--it is too refined and cites too many laws. Nothing against Crisshawn, but that complaint was drafted by a lawyer or a law student, likely for free.

The issue of Crisshawn's courage really has nothing to do with who drafted the complaint. His name remains on the complaint without a lawyer: brave stuff, imho.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm

So you are saying it might have something to do with his right to free counsel against the State?


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Post by Dean Murdoch on Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:50 pm

Glad to see his info was redacted.

Also, in this day and age of partisan media I think this DoubleDipper kid has a future writing clickbait headlines for social media! He got me hook, line, and sinker with this thread title.
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Post by wrv on Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:15 am

Geezaldinho wrote:So you are saying it might have something to do with his right to free counsel against the State?

It would be an interesting world if the state would up-front pay for you to sue them. I suspect that taxpayers, a few of whom may even post here, would not be happy with that use of funds.

There is no right to free counsel unless you are indigent and your freedom is in peril because you are being prosecuted for a crime, and even then if convicted you are required to pay funds back. But contrary to almost all suggestions otherwise, people in the law business, lawyers, do volunteer their time.

I think we agree that Crisshawn did not draft the complaint. If he had paid someone to draft the complaint, there is a rule that requires a certificate to be filed with the complaint indicating who he paid to draft the complaint, provided that person is a lawyer. I assume there was no such certificate attached (at least none in the linked document) and hence he did not pay a lawyer to draft the complaint. No certificate necessary if the drafting was unpaid.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:28 am

Perhaps he didnít pay, so no certificate would be necessary. And perhaps the counsel who wrote it isnít admitted to the Oregon Bar, so he would not be a lawyer in Oregon.

And perhaps an attorney with an Oregon Bar membership card is forthcoming.

But he didnít write a sentence of that other than signing his name.
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Post by DoubleDipper on Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:06 pm

Nothing to do with Crisshawn, but a lot to do with assault apologist, Dana Altman, IMO.....
SI College Hoops wrote:Kavell Bigby-Williams played and entire season for Oregon while under investigation for rape. †How was that allowed?
SI College Hoops wrote:The details of a Title IX investigation into Kavell Bigby-Williams's alleged rape are more jarring given the program
Very lengthy Sports Illustrated article here: https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/10/25/oregon-kavell-bigby-williams-title-ix-investigation
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