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Re: 2017 Season

Post by StudentPilot on Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:02 pm

I kinda thought we'd be seeing a report on the North Carolina St. game here by now.

It would appear the Pilots put up a pretty good fight against the ranked Wolfpack.  I'd heard they were in the final 16 last year and returned all 11 starters.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by Corrado Kid on Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:44 pm

One can't expect perfection so early in the season. NC State dominated UP but did a terrible job of finishing. The Pilots' offense, which amounted to 3 shots, was anemic. If things don't improve fast, we might be looking at a 1-3 record by next week and staring down into the abyss.

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by purple passion on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:42 am

NC State played a typical East Coast game, very physical and swarming on defense. The Pilots had more than 80% (my estimate) of their passes intercepted. Three Pilots appeared to have put on several pounds from last year and were slower. I saw a lot of casual jogging during the game, so I am hoping they all get into game shape soon. Keep in mind all of this is just an opinion based on what I saw.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by SouthCarolinaPilot on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:30 am

Regardless of everyone's opinions of what they are seeing, I think we can all agree that this is not the Pilot soccer we expect. We are surely committing more resources to women's soccer than every other school in the conference except maybe BYU and Santa Clara.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by ejjqb on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:07 am

Have to agree this is not Pilot soccer compared to many years of watching them. Hard to understand the inability to pass to a Pilot who is open, the apparent lack of composure with the ball, the lack of hustle, taking three stutter steps before trying a shot or a pass, waiting until the defender is one step away before deciding to make the obvious pass and then trying to pass through the defender anyway, players on top of players with the ball, running to a teammate with the ball rather than moving to space to receive the pass, dribbling into two or three defenders rather than pass to the open teammate, coasting to the free ball and allowing the defender to get there first or to the point of panic once on the ball. These have all become the norm of women's Pilot soccer for three years now and one has to wonder if this is how they are coached. They all have high accolades out of high school, so what has happened since? The men's team is so dynamic now and the women's is just not at all.

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:27 pm

With the Pilots' loss to NC State, they now have dropped out of the Top 60 in my updated full season simulation (each week, I substitute actual results for simulated results) and have become unlikely for the NCAA Tournament.  The simulated bracket still has them as a possible at large selection from among the teams that are outside the Top 60 and that may get back into the Top 60, but even if they get back in, their prospects are more dim.  (They'd have to get back into the Top 60 even to be considered for a selection.)

I should add a note about the simulations. At this early stage of the season, I assign teams ARPI ratings based on an historic average for the team. I could assign ratings based on teams' historic ARPI trends, but I don't because overall using trended ratings would not come as close to year-end ratings as using average ratings. A result of this is that some teams that are trending in a particular direction end up with unrepresentative average ratings where trended ratings would be more representative. This could include the U of P women's team.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by SouthCarolinaPilot on Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:33 am

Marginally related to the season: the Timbers Army repped UP in their Tifo last night at the match in Seattle: Picture
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by SouthCarolinaPilot on Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:40 am

I watched the Baylor game and here are my quick thoughts:

We played something that reminded me of Pilot soccer, which I appreciated. In the first half, I thought we looked pretty dangerous. It's a unfortunate we couldn't convert some of those shots to goals. I dislike that the difference in the end was that penalty in the box. It was the right call but it was a weak call, in my opinion. This game and the Florida game give me for hope for the season but it's hard to feel too excited when I know we used to wipe the floor with a team like Baylor.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by SoreKnees on Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:58 am

SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:we used to wipe the floor with a team like Baylor.

Yup. The Pilots were slow to every ball for most of the match and beaten for speed on both attack and defense. But Baylor had no technical skill at all. The good Pilot teams were able to work the ball around teams like this at will and score 5 goals. Not this one.

The storied Pilot women's program is now about the level of the lower-tier WCC teams. Sad betrayal of the magnificent (but waning) support. That might be my last women's match until there is a staffing chance that restores my optimism.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by VillaGorilla on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:32 am

SoreKnees wrote:
SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:we used to wipe the floor with a team like Baylor.

Yup. The Pilots were slow to every ball for most of the match and beaten for speed on both attack and defense. But Baylor had no technical skill at all. The good Pilot teams were able to work the ball around teams like this at will and score 5 goals. Not this one.

The storied Pilot women's program is now about the level of the lower-tier WCC teams. Sad betrayal of the magnificent (but waning) support. That might be my last women's match until there is a staffing chance that restores my optimism.

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by Susie Que on Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:24 pm

After Chris Henderson predicted SCU would finish third in the WCC and UP ninth on AllWhiteKit, these were two posted comments:

Jules:
How does one explain Portland’s fall in recruitment while Santa Clara continues to do well?

FDChief:
I think the simplest explanation is “Garrett Smith isn’t Clive Charles”.

The UP program is increasingly looking like the product of one man’s technical/tactical skills as well as his personal charm and recruiting abilities. I’m unaware of whether UP lost anyone else from Charles’ tenure, but I’m guessing that Smith inherited at least some of his contacts…and yet the recruiting has dried up.

So the unfortunate conclusion has to be that whatever qualities Smith has (and I know nothing about the man personally) he lacks whatever it was that made Charles so well regarded and, as such, such a magnet for quality players.

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by ehk21 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:42 pm

The great success of the women's soccer program was a reflection of Clive Charles. The two national championships also were a result of having a once-in-a-lifetime kind of player: Ms. Sinclair.

The men's soccer program had a similar downward slide as the women are facing now. Now that there is new, fresh leadership in the men's program, it is heading upward again. I think we can learn some lessons from the experience of the men's program.

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by A_Fan on Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:15 pm

Went to today's game and there is only one word for the Pilots play. Wow. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by eProf on Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:24 pm

A_Fan wrote:Went to today's game and there is only one word for the Pilots play.  Wow.  And I don't mean that in a good way.
Today was not a good day for our gals. Giving up possession by clearing the ball, even when not under pressure. Many mis-hit passes. Not having vision to see an open teammate in a dangerous position. Tentative when taking shots. Tentative when going after free balls.

They played a lot better on Friday, but ended up with the same result.

If I'm counting right, they have scored only one goal in the last seven games--and that was an own goal.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:25 pm

ehk21 wrote:

The men's soccer program had a similar downward slide as the women are facing now. Now that there is new, fresh leadership in the men's program, it is heading upward again. I think we can learn some lessons from the experience of the men's program.

The men didnt win this weekend either. It's a bit early to gauge program trends. Let's see if they make the tournament, but they are digging a whole that would require back to back WCC titles to dig out of.

Then may have already lost an at large bid.
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Re: 2017 Season

Post by Susie Que on Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:48 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:
ehk21 wrote:

The men's soccer program had a similar downward slide as the women are facing now. Now that there is new, fresh leadership in the men's program, it is heading upward again. I think we can learn some lessons from the experience of the men's program.

The men didnt win this weekend either. It's a bit early to gauge program trends. Let's see if they make the tournament, but they are digging a whole that would require back to back WCC titles to dig out of.

Then may have already lost an at large bid.
Geez, in the likely event the women's team fails to win the WCC as their only way into the tournament, would you be opposed to a staff change?

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Re: 2017 Season

Post by StudentPilot on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:57 pm

Admittedly I don't know a lot about soccer, but the Pilots looked pretty good to me in the second half before the PK clinched it in the final seconds.  It was my first game of the season, so I don't have anything to compare last night's game to.

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