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Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by wrv on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:18 am

Cannot imagine there is too much to debate about our point being one of the best ever to play the position(or any other) in Pilot history. An argument can be made that he is the best . . . better than Pooh Jeter, maybe to be considered with Darwin Cook and Jose Slaughter. Guards that come readily to mind that have played either guard position for the Pilots:

Alec Wintering
Kevin Bailey
Jared Stohl
TJ Campbell
Nik Ravio
Pooh Jeter
Chivo Anderson
Darrin Cooper
Greg Anthony
Darwin Cook
Jose Slaughter

In order of quality of play and effectiveness where would you place Alec?

I do not think Alec will be drafted, but can we exclude the possibility?

Impressive run Alec Wintering. Enjoyable to watch.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by up7587 on Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:06 pm

I'll have to look at they list of HOF players to see what other guards from he old days are listed. G. Anthony was very good, but leaving after one season lets Alec eclipse him. How about Erik Spoelstra?

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by SoCalPilot on Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:12 pm

1. Darwin Cook
2. Jose Slaughter
3. Alec Wintering

Alec is on pace to overtake Jose, but will likely fall short of Darwin, whose huge game against top-ranked USF and lengthy NBA career will be tough to match. That said, Alec's play of late has been outstanding.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by pilotdad1 on Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:42 pm

I dont have the history to speak on many of those on the list but I have seen a couple and think Alec can hold his own. That said, within recent history I give you this

1 Nik Ravio This kid can flat out play, I think he is better than his brother who played at GU. Nik continues to play at a very high level in Europe and his size and strength makes him a very tough guard at the point.

2 Alec Wintering Considering he is vastly undersized, Alec has a great set of tools in his arsenal and more importantly has superb court awareness. When Rhino was playing the one thing his teams lacked was an experienced PG. First Timmy as a freshman, then Rogers (who wasnt really a D1 player), then Alec as a freshman. But even in his freshman year it was evident that Alec was going to be a great player.

3 TJ Campbell TJ was a strong, quick and headsy player who was surrounded by All League talent. It allowed him to be a leader with the ball in his hands as those around him were more than capable of finishing with his distribution.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by wrv on Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:09 am

FWIW, for my money the four best have been mentioned by SocalPilot and Pilotdad1. Though I think a great deal of TJ, I place him a notch below Cook, Slaughter, Nik Ravio and Alec. Chivo Anderson was something in his last two years here and one of my favorites.

Nice observation about Nik and his brother which I also think is true. Still cannot believe that Holton would not offer Nik. Whatever is said about Reveno’s future, he had the sense to immediately offer Nik.

There have been some really good guards. Wintering’s performance this year in particular has earned him the right to be discussed with the best.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by PilotNut on Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:07 pm

Congrats, Alec!

Wintering Earns WCC, National Weekly Honors

SAN BRUNO, Calif. – Portland junior point guard Alec Wintering garnered various weekly awards after leading the Pilots to a road sweep of Pepperdine and Loyola Marymount last week. Wintering picked up his second West Coast Conference Player of the Week honor this season and also earned national recognition.

The Charlotte, N.C. native was named the CollegeSportsMadness.com National High-Major Player of the Week and the CollegeCourtReport.com National Mid-Major Player of the Week. CollegeInsider.com’s Angela Lento also named Wintering to her weekly top five performance list among all mid-majors.

Wintering averaged 24.0 points, 7.0 rebounds and 6.5 assists in the two road wins. He scored 19 points, grabbed seven rebounds and dished out six assists in Portland’s 73-70 upset win over Pepperdine on national television Thursday night. Wintering drilled the go-ahead three-pointer with the Pilots trailing by one and 1:06 left in regulation to hand the Waves their first home loss of the season.

He then erupted for 29 points, seven rebounds and seven assists in a 92-78 win at Loyola Marymount on Saturday.

Wintering shot 59 percent from the field, made 7-of-12 three-pointers and 7-of-8 free throws in the two victories. The road sweep was the first for the Pilots over Pepperdine and LMU since 2009.

The three-year starting point guard earlier earned WCC weekly honors on December 28 after leading the Pilots to a home sweep of Pepperdine and LMU. He erupted for a career-high 34 points in the win over the Waves.

Wintering ranks fourth overall this season in scoring at 19.0 points per game, but that production has increased in league play to 22.5 points per game. He trails only Gonzaga’s Kyle Wiltjer (22.Cool in scoring during WCC games.

Wintering also ranks second in the league in steals (1.7) and fifth in both assists (5.5) and three-point percentage (.438).

He already ranks 24th in Portland school history in career scoring (1,106), third in three-point percentage (.429), fifth in assists (452) and seventh in steals (137).

Wintering and the Pilots will look to extend their win streak when the Gonzaga Bulldogs visit the Chiles Center for another nationally televised game on Thursday. The game will be aired live on ESPNU with tip-off at 8 p.m.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:41 pm

I know it was the middle of the night in some parts of the US when PU hosted UP, but anytime your team can be seen on any of the ESPN stations, there's bound to be more people noticing your performance.

Congratulations to Alec.  

I've been watching Pilots basketball since 1962, and I do not recall a guard who has been more important to his team than Alec.  Whether he's the best all-time individual performer at the guard spot at UP may be up for debate, but all the other top guards I can think of had a better supporting cast.....especially in the front court.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by PilotNut on Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:05 pm

DoubleDipper wrote: I do not recall a guard who has been more important to his team than Alec.  Whether he's the best all-time individual performer at the guard spot at UP may be up for debate, but all the other top guards I can think of had a better supporting cast.....especially in the front court.

I agree 100% ... absolutely the "most MVP" of all the guards I can remember.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by up7587 on Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:22 pm

Is "twenty-two point cool" a lot of points? geek

I am sure Coach Few has mentioned Alec's name a couple times this week.

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:34 pm

College Court Report, “The Canadian-based NCAA college basketball website,” has listed its top 100 college basketball players for the upcoming season…..16 of the players are from conferences in the western US…..10 are from the Pac-12 (four from UO), there are five from the WCC (three from GU, and one each from BYU and UP), and there’s one from the Big Sky:

1. Ivan Rabb– Cal
3. Dillon Brooks – Oregon
14. Tyler Dorsey – Oregon
20. Nigel Williams-Goss – Gonzaga
22. Chris Boucher – Oregon
25. Nick Emery – BYU
34. Jordan McLaughlin – USC
44. Jordan Mathews – Gonzaga
54. Allonzo Trier – Arizona
55. Jordan Bell – Oregon
65. Josh Hawkinson – Washington State
76. Alec Wintering – Portland

“One of the most underappreciated guards in the entire country is Alec Wintering. He’s averaged at least 4.5 assists and 1.5 steals per game in each of his first three seasons, and set a career-high with 18.3 points per game as a junior in 2015-16. He can shoot the ball well from long distance (39.8% in 15-16), and has the basketball IQ and court vision to hurt you without having to shoot. Consider Wintering a sleeper for WCC Player of the Year.”

79. Przemek Karnowski – Gonzaga
80. Bennie Boatwright – USC
82. Bryce Alford – UCLA
98. Ethan Telfair – Idaho State

https://collegecourtreport.com/2016/08/15/top-100-players-in-college-basketball-for-the-2016-17-season/

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:02 am

The Hoops Column wrote:  He will lead his team next season looking to improve from 12-20 to make a run at a conference championship.  
http://www.thehoopscolumn.com/2016/08/24/non-power-5-conference-guards-to-watch-pt-2/16/

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Re: Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

Post by wrv on Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:30 pm

Sad part is Alec haas only one year remaining.

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