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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:36 pm

Terry Cahill wrote:
up7587 wrote:3rd/4th is also very important positioning to avoid GU in the semis in Vegas.

So along that vein....would you rather be 5th or 6th?

Yes. Just stay above 7th.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:51 pm

Remember that USF team that didn't have much energy two nights ago?  With 14-1/2 minutes to go in the game, they are even with GU 50-50.  WTH?  Shocked

Update: GU wins by 11, 81-70 in a game that was closer than the score.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Dean Murdoch on Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:48 am

How quickly a couple of wins can turn things around...from this time last week to now:

KenPom: 152 to 119 (!)
RPI: 140 to 125
Sagarin: 135 to 117

And most importantly, this time last week the Pilots were in a knot of three-win teams that were looking up at five-win San Diego and Santa Clara for fifth/sixth.

Now Santa Clara still has five wins with a four-game losing streak, plays the next three on the road, and has Pacific/Saint Mary's at home to end the season. Absolute best-case finish for SCU is 8-10.

San Diego at home to Pacific on Thursday, but then the schedule maker slaps them with Saint Mary's, BYU, and Gonzaga in back-to-back-to-back games. Best-case scenario for USD is probably 8-9 heading into the final game of the schedule at Chiles.

Pilots? Now they've got four of last six at home, and one of the two away games is what should be the most winnable road game in the WCC this year (Pacific). They're going to be favored to win four of these six...3-3 will at the very least get them away from Friday in Vegas, and 4-2 would basically lock up the #5 seed to set the Vegas road as BYU or PEP in the quarters and Gonzaga in the semis. Last time this board laid out a "next six games" scenario it didn't go so hot...let's hope for a different outcome this time around.

WCC postseason projections -
• Gonzaga: 1 seed if they win out, 2 seed if they lose once, 3/4 seed with two losses
• Saint Mary's: NIT
• BYU: NIT
• Pepperdine: CBI/CIT
• Portland: CBI/CIT with two more wins
• San Diego: CBI/CIT with three more wins

I guess mathematical chances still exist for both Pepperdine and Portland for NIT consideration...but both teams are seven wins away from even the NIT bubble with five and six games left on the WCC schedule, respectively.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:02 pm

Terry Cahill wrote:Last time this board laid out a "next six games" scenario it didn't go so hot...let's hope for a different outcome this time around.
The key is to start with a strong game on Thursday.  Previous Pepperdine game was very close the entire way, but Kevin was a one man show. The team is playing much better now with more contributors. I guess that's what Rev is thinking, too.
@CoachReveno wrote:Sure nice to get road sweep but really proud of how the team prepared last week to put us in position to win. Healthy and focused does work.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by PilotNut on Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:22 pm

A win on Thursday would be huge. Pepp is a little hard to figure out this year, with some great wins and head-scratching losses. If we come out and play with the discipline and energy of the past couple games, I like our chances. Getting back to .500 in WCC play would be awfully nice!

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:31 pm

Hard to figure out? I'll say! Since they last played us, 5 of the 6 games they've played turned out with an upset, IMO. They lost a road sweep to the teams we just beat, USF and SCU. Then, after taking care of UOP, they beat SMC in Moraga and BYU at home. Then they get blown out at home by USD? I have no idea what Pepperdine team we'll see on Thursday.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:50 pm

up7587 wrote:I have no idea what Pepperdine team we'll see on Thursday.
I'm more concerned about what UP team we'll see! Consistency has been lacking for the Pilots this year. The last two games have revived a glimmer of hope for the season (and, frankly, for the direction of the program). It is time to bear down now and bring the same intense energy and focus EVERY night.

It would really help to have a good home crowd -- and a loud, involved student section -- for this weekend's games!

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:18 pm

NoPoNeighbor wrote:I'm more concerned about what UP team we'll see! Consistency has been lacking for the Pilots this year.
Regardless of the outcome, the Pilots are a much better team than just 10 days ago because, for the most part, everyone is healthy and back in game shape.

Pilots fans cannot underestimate the loss of Riley for the season.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize the Pilots started struggling went he broke his knee.  He is the guy who played stellar defense by disrupting opposing offenses and he rotated in an out of the lineup with the other bigs so fatigue was less of a factor.

When KB went down for eight games he could not perform any workouts or exercises that would put strain on his foot, consequently, it has taken him a few weeks just to get into game shape and contribute to the TEAM instead of working so hard on his individual performance that he was hurting the team.

Finally, when Bryce suffered the concussion against GU it had a huge impact on team chemistry...especially on offense. Remember, Alec has been suffering from a hip pointer and takes a constant beating, and even if he were 100% he can't go 40 minutes or play much in excess of 30 minutes in back-to-back weekend games.....the Pilots needed Bryce to run the point in Alec's absence.  Xubi did an admirable job on defense, but it was obvious he had little offense to offer.

Injuries and illnesses are going to affect all teams (Jake was suffering from some sort of virus this past week), so it's going to be up to the bench to pick up the slack and play their best if the Pilots are going to continue winning.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:28 pm

Here's the updated comparison of the Pilot's WCC results from last year to this year. (Looking not at results based on the progression of the calendar, but based on the opponents and locations of the games.)

We are currently 1 game up on our performance from last year (last year we had 4-8 record in the games that we have played so far this season; this year we are at 5-7). Last season, we won both of the upcoming games (home against Pepp and LMU). We need to win both games this week to stay ahead of last season's team (and thereby demonstrate that the program is making progress!).

UPDATED:
NoPoNeighbor wrote:WCC Results Comparison, '13-'14 vs '14-'15

GAME: LAST YEAR(RECORD), THIS YEAR(RECORD)
@USD: L(0-1), W(1-0)
@BYU: L(0-2), L(1-1)
vsGU: W(1-2), L(1-2)
vsSCU: L(1-3), W(2-2)
vsUSF: L(1-4), L(2-3)
@LMU: W(2-4), L(2-4)
@Pepp: L(2-5), L(2-5)
vsUoP: W(3-5), W(3-5)
vsSMC: L(3-6), L(3-6)
@GU: L(3-7), L(3-7)
@USF: L(3-8 ), W(4-7)
@SCU: W(4-8 ), W(5-7)
vsPepp: W
vsLMU: W
@SMC: L
@UoP: L
vsBYU: W
vsUSD: L

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:04 pm

Man, no matter what numbers we look at, that LMU game sticks out. Odds will favor a win at UOP, I'd love to see a repeat of the BYU win, which is not out of the question, and the USD game will be a big one. But a win Thursday is big.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:37 pm

There are six games left. They are al big, at least in that we need to at least break even.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:20 pm

Terry Cahill wrote:How quickly a couple of wins can turn things around...from this time last week to now:

RPI: 140 to 125
Which is 4th in the WCC:

GU: 8
SMC: 64
BYU: 66
UP: 125
PU: 137
USD: 175
SCU: 185
USF: 204
LMU: 208
UOP: 236

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:54 pm

WCC game of the night should be SMC at BYU (ESPN2).  BYU is not out of reach in the standings, SMC is, so root for SMC.  UOP goes to USD, so it will be hard to make up a game on the Toreros.  SCU goes to USF (ESPNU). USF is 2 behind the Pilots in the win column, while SCU is tied with us, but a tiebreak behind.  I think we root for the Dons here. And a valiant LMU effort in Spokane that leaves them tired for Saturday's game would be nice.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:42 am

Las Vegas odds on the WCC games today (the home teams are considered the favorites in all the games):

BYU by 6 over SMC (ESPN2 @ 6)
GU by 24 over LMU (ROOT @ 6)
USD by 9 over UOP
USF by 6.5 over SCU (ESPNU @ 8 )

......and UP by 4.5 over PU

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Dean Murdoch on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:19 am

up7587 wrote:SCU goes to USF (ESPNU). USF is 2 behind the Pilots in the win column, while SCU is tied with us, but a tiebreak behind.  I think we root for the Dons here.

I see this one as a win-win. Either USF loses (which is always fun), or Santa Clara loses which is more relevant to the Pilots right now as far as middle-of-the-pack standings.

I'd like to see Saint Mary's beat BYU on the road...that might at least get them back to near the NCAA bubble.

On an aside...I haven't seen this mentioned on here, but anyone remember the win over Murray State? Well, the Racers lost to Valpo the next day in Nashville...and haven't lost since. Murray State is now 21-4 and riding a 19-game winning streak, and can make it 20 tonight with a home win over SIU Edwardsville.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by PilotNut on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:10 pm

Through 2/12:


Remaining Pilot games: LMU, @SMC, @Pac, BYU, USD.  

With USF's win over SCU, we essentially have a 2-game lead over the Broncos thanks to our tiebreaker.  SCU finishes with 4 games on the road, @LMU, @Pepp, @SMC, @Pac.  Advantage Pilots.
LMU: @Port, USF, SCU, @Pepp.  If we are able to take care of business Saturday, I don't see them catching us.  
USF: @LMU, @Pepp, SMC, Pac.  I don't see USF winning more than 2 of these games, and could lose all of them.  Who knows.

Looking at the teams ahead of us:
USD plays SMC Saturday, then @BYU, @GU, @Port.  Advantage Pilots, especially with our chance to clinch the tiebreaker.
Pepp: @GU Saturday, then home vs. SCU, USF, LMU.  Being that they have a 2 win lead (hopefully only 1 after Saturday), and a less challenging series of games for them at home, it will be tough to overtake them.  Advantage Waves.

Looking at the WCC Tourney bracket... #3 plays #6, #4 plays #5.  The #3/#6 winner plays the #2/#7/#10 winner.  The #4/#5 winner plays #1/#8/#9.  So coming in #6 isn't necessarily bad...

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:38 pm

Terry Cahill wrote:
up7587 wrote:3rd/4th is also very important positioning to avoid GU in the semis in Vegas.

So along that vein....would you rather be 5th or 6th?

The 6th place team plays the 3rd place team, while 5th plays 4th. As it stands now the 4th place team is Pepperdine, the 3rd place team is BYU.  Upon further reflection, I'd rather be 5th. I'd rather play Pepperdine with a chance at GU, vs. play BYU with a chance at SMC.

I think USD has won their last game, they play the top 3 teams: an angry SMC, and the two toughest road games in the conference at BYU and GU. And of course the red hot Pilots!

Pepperdine looked like they had nothing tonight, but USF and SCU looked pretty bad too, and I don't think it was all good defense. I think PU will win a couple more games for 10 total.

I think the Pilots will end up with 9 wins, beating LMU, UOP and USD. A win over BYU could earn a 10th place, but I think Pepperdine has the tie-breaker; isn't it victories against higher seeded teams? They have 3 of those already. So 4th place might require a win in Moraga and sweeping out. 5th looks most likely.

Of course, I should put on my Eeyore face and say we could lose them all, too. LMU could catch us and they'd have the tie-breaker.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:54 pm

Im just worried about the weekend.

One at a time.

One at a time.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by up7587 on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:59 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:Im just worried about the weekend.

One at a time.

One at a time.

That is critical for players and coaches. For yahoos with a keyboard, not so much.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:02 am

Maybe that's it. I don't use a keyboard.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:11 am

USF and SCU are off today, and once again all the home teams are favored by the Las Vegas odds makers (all times PST):

USD by 1 over SMC (ROOT @ 1)
GU by 18.5 over PU (ROOT @ 5)
BYU by 18 over UOP (BYUtv @ 6)
UP by 10 over LMU (ROOT @ 7)

Apparently the game of the day is slated to be in San Diego....a win by SMC would probably help the Pilots' cause the most.

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:01 pm

I was watching part of the USD - st. Mary's game.

31-20 at the half SMC

With 7 minutes left in the period it was 12-8 USD Shocked

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:45 pm

USD up by 4 in the closing minutes! Come on Gaels!

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:56 pm

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Re: 2014-15 Opponents Thread: How are they doing?

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:30 pm

SMC survives in double-OT. Phew.

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