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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by blacksheep on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:27 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:
dholcombe wrote:The Hoop Scoop rating is a bit suspect in at least one way. Their rating is simply an addition of all recruits scores added up then compared directly against other schools. They don't use a star system, but they do give all recruits in their ranking brackets (41-70, etc.) a number of points.
SouthCarolinaPilot wrote:While the ranking methods and validity of their results might be suspect, it is nice that at least someone out there seems to think highly of us. That is not something we are used to.
Here’s how the point system works and where UP’s recruits fit according to Hoop Scoop:
Top 5 players nationally….10 pts
6-10…..9 pts
11-40…..8 pts
41-70…..6 pts (Tahirou Diabate)
71-100…..4 pts (Taki Fahrensohn, Josh McSwiggan)
101-300…..3 pts (Austin Stone, JoJo Walker, Hugh Hogland, Marcus Shaver)
301-1000.….2 pts
Those not in the top 1000…..1 pt

Hoop Scoop's final tally of recruiting classes should be out later this week....UP is expected to be rated 8th or 9th based upon its cumulative score.

(Pitt transfer, Crisshawn Clark, is not listed because transfer players are not included in the equation.)

The fact that it's cumulative means we are getting a lot of weight for the number of recruits we are getting. It it were an average, we wouldn't be anywhere near top 10. That said, 3 top 100 players is impressive.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:45 pm

blacksheep wrote:
3 top 100 players is impressive.  

300% of any previous recruiting class.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:36 pm

blacksheep wrote: That said, 3 top 100 players is impressive.  
I think having all 7 rated recruits in the Top-300 is very impressive once you look at the number of recruits that join D1 MBB each year.

At a minimum, 1200 to 1300 new student-athletes join D1 every year.....meaning 100% of UP's new players are included in the top 25% of all D1 recruits by at least one recruiting service.

(There are close to 33,000 MBB players playing at all levels (JUCO through D1).  The 351 D1 teams carry an average of 1000 walk-on players and exactly 4563 scholarship players in any given year.  Source: www.ScholarshipStats.com/basketball.htm.)
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by dholcombe on Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:20 pm

I was thinking of making a similar post 1200-1300 the past couple days, but wasn't sure of the number of D1 teams and hadn't bothered to look it up yet, thanks for doing the math. There are 13 scholarships per team...average of 3.25 a year, yadda yadda. So we've got over double the theoretical average.

Looking at the top 4 and comparing it to other teams top 4 (which I haven't done) I'm betting we have a pretty legitimate top 50 class even without the extra weight coming from having so many recruits in one year. Even looking at the next 4 recruits I wouldn't be surprised if they would be a top 100 class. I in no way mean to say we have a bad recruiting class...its just not top 10 in my mind. Its the best class we've had that I can recall.

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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by lomiton on Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:30 am

New Pilot PG!

https://mobile.twitter.com/nolimitb_22/status/875169250742157312

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVV6wlpBS1l/

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3521114/brian-smith

Played HS basketball at Boise High school, Class of 2015. Don't believe he played any college ball in between. Nice kid, has a great handle and is strong. Will be interested to see what Porter's coaching and a D1 regime can do for him..

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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:48 am

Looks like Brian Smith played this past year at SOE Academy (prep school) in North Carolina?

http://www.hudl.com/team/v2/256563/brian-smith

Maybe a walk-on? Or is he taking a scholarship from a Porter? I guess even with Shaver, the coaches wanted another PG on the roster.

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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:05 pm

Does this mean he had a post graduation prep year and then sat a year?

If so, I think he looses a year of eligibility.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:23 pm

lomiton wrote:New Pilot PG!
Played HS basketball at Boise High school, Class of 2015. Don't believe he played any college ball in between. Nice kid, has a great handle and is strong. Will be interested to see what Porter's coaching and a D1 regime can do for him..  
My first question when I saw this post was, "lomiton, where have you been for 10 years?"  I recall your evaluation of Pooh Jeter about 10 years ago, and then you disappeared!

Yes, Brian Smith (Boise HS, Class of 2015) is a "Preferred Walk-On."  Meaning he's a walk-on who is guaranteed a spot on the 2017-18 MBB roster....

I'd heard that he took a year away from school after high school to look after an ailing parent and then played ball this past season at Standard of Excellence (SOE) Basketball Academy in Charlotte, North Carolina.  Digging around on the internet a bit, it would also appear he had a 3.5 high school GPA, and was going to walk-on at Boise State, but instead decided to get at least a year with Coach Porter as a means of improving his game.

We knew the staff preferred to have 3 point guards, now they've got them....all freshmen!



Refreshing to see a tape where the player has as many assists as made baskets....
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:13 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:
My first question when I saw this post was, "lomiton, where have you been for 10 years?"  I recall your evaluation of Pooh Jeter about 10 years ago, and then you disappeared

In my old neighborhood, it wasn't polite to ask that question. It was usually what the made guys called "College".
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by blacksheep on Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:13 pm

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DoubleDipper wrote:
My first question when I saw this post was, "lomiton, where have you been for 10 years?"  I recall your evaluation of Pooh Jeter about 10 years ago, and then you disappeared

In my old neighborhood, it wasn't polite to ask that question. It was usually what the made guys called "College".

In my neighborhood it was Jail!
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:20 pm

The particular college in question was in Ossining, ny.




In high school, we used to go there and run track against those guys.

( you can actually get a college degree through Mercy College there. Favorite degree is in paralegal work)
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Ha Ha...always lurking!

Post by lomiton Today at 11:22 am

Never had anything more to add to the discussion...until the recent Smith news of course. Appreciate you guys posting though, Pilot news is hard to get!

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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Sound Voltex Today at 11:55 am

Roster has been updated on official site.

http://portlandpilots.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
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