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Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:28 am

The first NCAA RPI is out. Here it is from with a little analysis of what it would mean if the selection were today. Teams with an asterisk are conference winners.

http://www.womentalksports.com/items/read/651/1428028

Seeded Teams
1 Stanford Pac-12*
2 BYU WCC*
3 Penn State Big Ten*
4 UCLA Pac-12
5 Florida State ACC*
6 North Carolina ACC
7 Long Beach State Big West*
8 San Diego State Mountain West*
9 Missouri SEC*
10 Boston College ACC
11 Texas A&M SEC
12 Duke ACC
13 Santa Clara WCC
14 Portland WCC
15 UCF Conference USA*
16 Florida SEC

Unseeded Teams
17 Virginia ACC
18 Tennessee SEC
19 Denver WAC*
20 Wake Forest ACC
21 Notre Dame Big East*
22 Georgetown Big East
23 Wisconsin Big Ten
24 Virginia Tech ACC
25 Ole Miss SEC
26 Washington Pac-12
27 Maryland ACC
28 Rutgers Big East
29 Michigan Big Ten
30 Ohio State Big Ten
31 Central Michigan MAC*
32 Washington State Pac-12
33 Colorado Pac-12
34 Illinois Big Ten
35 Baylor Big XII*
36 Oregon State Pac-12
37 Memphis Conference USA
38 Dartmouth Ivy*
39 Kansas Big XII
40 Marquette Big East
41 Kentucky SEC
42 Colorado College Conference USA
43 Pepperdine WCC
44 Louisville Big East
45 West Virginia Big XII
46 Iowa Big Ten
47 Minnesota Big Ten
48 UNC Wilmington CAA*
49 Florida Gulf Coast Atlantic Sun*
50 Dayton Atlantic 10*
51 Middle Tennessee State Sun Belt*
52 Navy Patriot*
53 Campbell Big South*
54 Stephen F. Austin Southland*
55 Stony Brook America East*
56 UNC Greensboro Southern*
57 Northern Colorado Big Sky*
58 Jacksonville State Ohio Valley*
59 Wright State Horizon*
60 Oakland Summit*
61 Rider MAAC*
62 Drake Missouri Valley*
63 Quinnipiac NEC*
64 Jackson State SWAC*
Last Five In
-Minnesota
-Iowa
-West Virginia
-Louisville
-Pepperdine
Last Five Out
-Alabama
-Texas Tech
-Vanderbilt
-Oklahoma State
-Cal
Next Five Out
-William & Mary
-LSU
-Utah
-Arizona
-Cal State Northridge
Multiple Bid Conferences
8 ACC
7 Big Ten
6 Pac-12
6 SEC
5 Big East
4 WCC
3 Big XII
3 Conference USA

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:03 pm

Hmm, that link doesn't work for me, neither can I gain access to the womentalksports website using either Chrome or IE. I'm wondering where they got that report, as it is not posted on the NCAA's website yet.

Plus, by my and nc-soccer's calculations, it looks like their first five out and second five out have left out some teams. Everything else is in order. I'm still waiting for an official release of the NCAA's RPI ranks so I can check and see whether they've changed the formula since last year. Hopefully not.

FURTHER EDIT: The link now works, and the womentalksports article actually was taken from All White Kit. The information there is not based on the NCAA's official RPI but rather on nc-soccer's calculations (which match mine) of the RPI assuming there have been no as-yet undisclosed changes since last year.

I figured out that the teams that were left out of the first five out and second five out are teams with current records below 0.500 who therefore would not qualify for at large selections if the selections occurred today.

I'm expecting the NCAA's first official release of its RPI rankings to come out tomorrow, although it might not be until Wednesday.

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by soccerjoy on Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:44 am

The first RPI release has us at 13. Check it out:

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa_womens_soccer_rpi

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by Geezaldinho on Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:18 pm

soccerjoy wrote:The first RPI release has us at 13. Check it out:

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa_womens_soccer_rpi

Chris at AWK already pointed out one error.

The NCAA has Oregon at 5-1-3 (48) when their actual record is 5-3-2(70).

Even if you discount last night's loss to BYU, they are 5-2-2.

Since we played Oregon, that will affect our RPI.

There might be other errors as well, which shows what a service UPSF and NC-Soccer are doing for women's soccer.

Years ago, this might have gone uncorrected.

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:01 pm

I don't understand why it is that we dropped out of the NSCAA rankings, but are still ranked via the RPI. I take the RPI more seriously, just because it is actual math and not perception, but we are #26 otherwise.

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Yes, the NCAA had two game result errors, one of which was Oregon/Pacific, and four game location errors. nc-soccer and I had some errors too, but at this point we've done slightly better than the NCAA -- the score is 6 NCAA errors to 5 errors for the good guys. We're already corrected our errors, and I've sent the NCAA stats person a list of their errors, which they should correct before their RPI report next week. We might have some disagreement over whether certain games were at home or neutral sites, but for those particular games it would be inconsequential.

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:18 pm

RipCityPilot wrote:I don't understand why it is that we dropped out of the NSCAA rankings, but are still ranked via the RPI. I take the RPI more seriously, just because it is actual math and not perception, but we are #26 otherwise.

I don't pay attention to the popularity contests at all. Unlike the other football it really doesn't matter what the voters think.

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by Psychotic on Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:59 pm

The latest NCAA RPI is out.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa_womens_soccer_rpi

Rank School
1 Stanford
2 UCLA
3 Penn State
4 Florida State
5 San Diego State
6 BYU
7 Santa Clara
8 Virginia
9 Florida
10 North Carolina
11 Baylor
12 Wake Forest
13 Tennessee
14 Texas A&M
15 Duke
16 Ohio State
17 Portland
18 Notre Dame
19 UCF
20 West Virginia
21 Michigan
22 Marquette
23 Pepperdine
24 Boston College
25 Texas Tech


Last edited by Psychotic on Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:17 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Word correction.)

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by soccerjoy on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:49 pm

A quick question...when I looked at the https://www.nc-soccer.com/wsoccer/2012/index_arpi website today, I noticed that UP has a zero in the Tied 1-40 Away column. Shouldn't there be a '1' there for last night's tie with Santa Clara? Or maybe I'm not understanding how that works?

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:41 am

soccerjoy wrote:A quick question...when I looked at the https://www.nc-soccer.com/wsoccer/2012/index_arpi website today, I noticed that UP has a zero in the Tied 1-40 Away column. Shouldn't there be a '1' there for last night's tie with Santa Clara? Or maybe I'm not understanding how that works?

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Re: RPI v. 1.0

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:13 pm

Well, SCU played Saint Mary's and won 2-0.

the victory dropped them to #11 so we wouldn't get that bonus in any case.

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