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Post by PilotDrummer on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:02 am

From Rev's Twitter page (https://twitter.com/#!/CoachReveno/status/182519598548140032)

"Soph. point Tim Douglas has requested, and been granted his release. Good player, student, and kid. Excellence starts with core value fit."

Bummer.

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Re: Douglas

Post by blacksheep on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:14 am

PilotDrummer wrote:From Rev's Twitter page (https://twitter.com/#!/CoachReveno/status/182519598548140032)

"Soph. point Tim Douglas has requested, and been granted his release. Good player, student, and kid. Excellence starts with core value fit."

Bummer.

Wow. He didn't have a great year, but I was hoping to see a good year from him next year. Hope Rev has a PG recruit lined up.

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Re: Douglas

Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:24 am

Recruiting class balancing: engage.

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Re: Douglas

Post by DoubleDipper on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:36 am

As I wrote in an earlier thread when discussing 2012-2013:
"Tim is totally focused on his studies and one day wants to be a physician, but he also see's that his playing time is diminishing and would like to be a starter again."
I believe Tim will go somewhere that is strong academically and will GRADUATE, but he’ll probably drop down a division so he can get a scholarship and continue to play.

Best of luck, Tim; you gave us some great moments on the court, but more importantly, you're an all around solid guy who will do well in life!

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Re: Douglas

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:22 pm

What does this mean for our point guard position?

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Re: Douglas

Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:28 pm

RipCityPilot wrote:What does this mean for our point guard position?
We really need one. Carr and Rodgers aren't going to cut it, I think.

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Re: Douglas

Post by up7587 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:51 pm

RipCityPilot wrote:What does this mean for our point guard position?
Starting the season we had three point guards, Douglas, Rogers and Waterford. Waterford was a senior and is done. Rodgers will be a senior, and has not yet been able to develop an offensive game. David Carr was recruited as a shooting guard, but by the end of last season was playing the point with Douglas. In the last three games, Carr started, but Douglas had the most minutes coming off the bench. For the season, Douglas played in every game, played the third most minutes on the team, and had 92 assists and 95 turnovers. I assume the A/TO ratio is why his minutes decreased at year end. His departure will leave a big hole in the roster, and teams with an aggressive press like USF and GU will have a bigger advantage against us.

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Re: Douglas

Post by piloted on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:37 pm

the only potential recruiting advantage here is when rev looks a PG recruit in the eye and tells him he will get lots of playing time, he wont be lying!!

we need a solid JC PG or new recruit to be able to compete next year. we wont get it done with current options. WCC defense has really improved.

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Re: Douglas

Post by upsailor on Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:19 pm

I really feel that Tim's season was due to too many new players to whom he was expected to get the ball in their hands. The previous season he had a veteran front line who knew how to get open and benefit from his penatrating and passng. He was trying to adapt but it wasn't easy.
I was \hoping the upcoming summer would have him a djusted to the thefuture season. no such luck

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Re: Douglas

Post by oldtimer on Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:45 pm

upsailor wrote:I really feel that Tim's season was due to too many new players to whom he was expected to get the ball in their hands. The previous season he had a veteran front line who knew how to get open and benefit from his penatrating and passng. He was trying to adapt but it wasn't easy.
I was \hoping the upcoming summer would have him a djusted to the thefuture season. no such luck

That first part was all too true it was the latter that defined his season.

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Re: Douglas

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:58 pm

" Good player, student, and kid. Excellence starts with core value fit."
Wow. I did not see that coming. Any thoughts on what that last sentence means? Is Reveno implying that Tim didn't fit with the team's core values? Or is he affirming that he DID fit?

I wonder if this means that a scholarship offer to another PG is imminent, and that that prompted Tim to seek his release. If that isn't the case, I don't know what would have prompted him to leave. His role on the team was really in his own hands. If he were to have made some improvements over the summer and to get back on the track he was on as a freshman (WCC player of the week a couple of times, I think), the PG spot would have been his. Starting PG is there for the taking. Strange situation...

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Re: Douglas

Post by oldtimer on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:15 pm

UP isnt the only one. USF just lost SIX players today, most notably Blackwell and Williams. Lets hope the rest of the UP crew stays.

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Re: Douglas

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:08 am

oldtimer wrote:UP isnt the only one. USF just lost SIX players today, most notably Blackwell and Williams. Lets hope the rest of the UP crew stays.
I spoke to an acquaintance of mine in the Bay Area today, and he has confirmed that six USF Dons basketball players are transferring: (Jr, Sr, etc. is next year's class)

Avery Johnson 6'3" G Jr. (He was UP's first choice as a recruit two years ago)
Justin Raffingon 6'9" F So.
Khalil Murphy 6'7" F So.
Charles Standifer 6'5" G Jr.

Those four players are ostensibly transferring on their own to get more playing time elsewhere.

Michael Williams 6'0" G Sr. Apparently he's got real issues with academics

Perris Blackwell 6'9" F Sr. Apparently his AAU coach and parents think if he goes someplace more prominent he'll one day be an NBA player.

Graduating seniors are:

Jay Wey
Rashand Green
Angelo Colariaro


I'm sure Rex will find some really good replacements in the midwest and west, but what does it say about the TEAM!?

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Re: Douglas

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:11 am

WOW. That's an entire team gone. 9 players leaving in one year.

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Re: Douglas

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:13 am

Just found this on the Dons Central board, in reference to the news of Douglas' transfer:
That's not really a surprise. Douglas saw his minutes dwindle and his parents told us after the Portland game at Memorial(and this is almost an exact quote, Cresco can back me up): "you can't do a lot when you don't have anyone to pass to"

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Re: Douglas

Post by RiseUP on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 am

I did a double take when I saw this tweet a couple days ago:

Pilot Core Values 1)Appreciation for opportunity 2) Burning desire to be the best you can be. 3) Belief in the power of teamwork.

Specifically the appreciation for opportunity. Might be completely unrelated but it struck me as weird.

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Re: Douglas

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:25 am

NoPoNeighbor wrote:
" Good player, student, and kid. Excellence starts with core value fit."
Wow. I did not see that coming. Any thoughts on what that last sentence means? Is Reveno implying that Tim didn't fit with the team's core values? Or is he affirming that he DID fit?.
As I'm sure you know, at the end of each basketball season each player sits down with the coaching staff for a very thorough assessment of their strengths, weaknesses, fixes, and OUTLOOK for the future.

None of us were there, but we know that TEAM is stressed, and we know that if a player feels he's not going to get the playing time because the TEAM is better with someone else getting the minutes, then that player has to make a decision for the future (just as they did at USF).

But let's face it; it could be as simple as lack of sunshine, missing home, classes, etc. But as I said earlier regarding Tim, he's a very good student focused on Medical School. I spoke to his parents in Seattle and Las Vegas, both great people, who said that his education was their most important wish for their son. We didn't even talk basketball.

This forum has a thread about recruiting a PG; now’s our chance to Rev it up!

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Re: Douglas

Post by up7587 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:35 am

NoPoNeighbor wrote:WOW. That's an entire team gone. 9 players leaving in one year.
Looking at USF's roster, they are losing their top four players in points per game. They only have 5 returning players, and only 3 that were solid contributors.

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Re: Douglas

Post by up7587 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:39 am

RiseUP wrote:I did a double take when I saw this tweet a couple days ago:

Pilot Core Values 1)Appreciation for opportunity 2) Burning desire to be the best you can be. 3) Belief in the power of teamwork.

Specifically the appreciation for opportunity. Might be completely unrelated but it struck me as weird.
Latest Rev tweet:
Great skills workout today with the players. New leadership emerging and true commitment to getting better. Extremely energizing.
New leadership? True commitment? Interesting comments.

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Re: Douglas

Post by up7587 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:19 am

Rev continues to share his thoughts:
Opportunity + Desire = Success. Committed to offer unmatched opportunity. Players bring desire to reach potential.
My view on why great teams aren't "great" for everyone, said much better by Jim Collins. Good stuff here. http://www.jimcollins.com/media_topics/first-who.html
I believe he is referring to these: Are Great Companies ... Great Places To Work? It Depends and The Right People Are Self Motivated


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Post by bctigard on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:31 am

I loved watching Douglas play last year, and absolutely respect his approach to academics--much more important than basketball imo. This year, though, Tim lacked a competitive spark. When the tweet came across, I wasn't surprised at all: I felt like this is a decision that Douglas made a long time ago.

If Douglas happens to look at the post: Thanks Tim! I loved watching you play, and thanks for your contribution. Good luck!

This is an opportunity!The few times that Waterford played at home, he played with that fire. For all of it's faults, his play was a statement: "we will not give up. You may win, but you will not beat me." He played with pride. Another point guard that I loved watching is that USF point--Cody Doolin?. Remember that turnover late in the game at home? He's the one that pulled the ball out of Douglas' hands. He played with intensity every moment he was on the floor. Would love to get a guy like that. A guy with attitude.

Nicholas, Bailey, Cason & Van Der Mars all play with attitude. Winning is important, but I'd love to see our guys really emphasize that kind of intensity next year, increase it. Even champions lose! But they never give up, never just take it. Look at VCU.

"Never Give an Inch!"

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Re: Douglas

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:50 am

bctigard wrote:.............Nicholas, Bailey, Cason & Van Der Mars all play with attitude. Winning is important, but I'd love to see our guys really emphasize that kind of intensity next year, increase it. Even champions lose! But they never give up, never just take it. Look at VCU.

"Never Give an Inch!"

GO PILOTS!!!
Great post, bct, well said! Welcome to PilotNation.

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Re: Douglas

Post by shallwemaui10 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:16 am

I don't blame Tim, I couldn't stand to watch rodgers play ahead of him either.

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Re: Douglas

Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:05 pm

up7587 wrote:Rev continues to share his thoughts

You guys know he Tweets motivational stuff like that nearly every day, right?


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Re: Douglas

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:36 pm

PurplePrideTrumpet wrote:You guys know he Tweets motivational stuff like that nearly every day, right?
Ha, ha. Yes, I read his stuff and find it's for those who are deeper thinkers then me (most everyone, I suspect). To me it's a combo of Zen and Kum ba yah.....

I prefer this approach to life:


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