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Post by Geezaldinho Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:36 pm

I knew it was bad when I glanced and saw that St. Mary's, the WCC champ, has to play in with Bakersfield.

No other WCC teams are in.
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Post by UPPilots Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:04 pm

The East Coast Bias is tremendously apparent in this whole thing, 6 out of 48 teams could be considered West Coast...

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Post by Geezaldinho Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:44 pm

We aren't the only ones that noticed.

http://www.socceramerica.com/article/44644/pac-10-and-wcc-at-large-candidates-ignored.html


[ANALYSIS] Teams from the Pac-12 and WCC have won nine Division I men's titles and finished second 11 other times, but the conferences had to settle for one team apiece in the 2011 NCAA Division I Tournament. Their respective conference champions, UCLA and St. Mary's, are headed to the postseason. Cases could be made for Washington and Portland, but no other Pac-10 or WCC team seeking an at-large bid won a non-conference game against a tournament team.

Washington went 5-1-2 against non-conference opponents and beat Loyola, Ill., which won the Horizon League, and UAB, the Conference USA runner-up.

Portland, which beat Washington, had wins over Big Ten champion Northwestern, UAB and St. Mary's (twice) and went 5-2-1 against non-conference foes.

San Diego State, which competes in men's soccer in the Pac-12, was 6-1-2 in non-conference play but only one win was over a team with a record better than .500 (Penn at 8-7-2).

The WCC's Santa Clara was 4-1-3 in non-conference play but didn't beat a team with a record above .500.

Neither conference holds a tournament for men's or women's soccer.

Pac-12:
champion: UCLA (15-4-1)
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Washington (12-4-2)
Tournament teams: 2-2-1
Non-conference: 5-1-2
(wins over Loyola, Ill., UAB)

San Diego State (10-6-3)
Tournament teams: 0-2-0
Non-conference: 6-1-2

Stanford (6-10-2)
Tournament teams: 0-3-0
Non-conference: 3-4-1

Oregon State (5-11-2)
Tournament teams: 0-4-1
Non-conference: 2-5-1

California (3-9-5)
Tournament teams: 0-3-1
Non-conference: 3-2-2

WCC:
champion: St. Mary's (8-6-5)
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Santa Clara (11-5-4)
Tournament teams: 1-2-1
(win over St. Mary's)
Non-conference: 4-1-3

Portland (11-7-2)
Tournament teams: 4-2-1
(wins over Northwestern, UAB, St. Mary's twice)
Non-conference: 5-2-1


San Diego (9-9-1)
Tournament teams: 0-4-1
Non-conference: 3-4-0

Loyola Marymount (7-12-1)
Tournament teams: 0-4-1
Non-conference: 2-6-0

San Francisco (6-10-3)
Tournament teams: 0-2-1
Non-conference: 2-4-1

Gonzaga  (4-12-3)
Tournament teams: 0-4-0
Non-conference: 2-6-0
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Post by UPPilots Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:48 pm

I mean, I understand that the NCAA probably wants to save a bit of money and they determine these things somewhat geographically, so sending the boys out to play on the East Coast is tough when they can put a similarly ranked team in the field instead. But I find that the point is somewhat hypocritical when they are going to send Dartmouth/Providence out to Santa Barbara and Delaware/Virginia out to UCLA in the 2nd round.

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