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Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by DoubleDipper on Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:58 pm

Concordia Irvine (CI) was a good beginning test for us last year when we squeaked by 68-65 after leading 35-27 at the half. Luke (14), Jared (15), and Tanner (11) were our leading scorers and Luke had 16 rebounds!! We were 3 of 20 behind the arc last week in our opener against Concordia Portland. In last yearís opener against CI we were 7 out of 20 on three pointers, but 5 of those came from Jared Ė so letís see if anyone will pick up the slack this year. Rev has high hopes for David Carr.

The telling stat for us last year was 20 turnovers (11 from our guards) with Eric playing 23 minutes and Tim only 8 at the point. We should have a lot more depth than CI (whoíve lost their three leading scorers), and itís their first game of the year.

CI is very scrappy; I look for us to win this one down low. CI has a 6-10/260 post, but our guys are more athletic and mobile. Look for a good fan turnout as there will be some Rip City Classic ticket buyers in attendance; let's get loud!

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:31 pm

DoubleDipper wrote:let's get loud!
AGREED!

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:26 am

Rev Tweets: "Tanner Riley (ankle) and Eric Waterford (calf) "out" for (tomorrow's) 7 pm exhibition game against Concordia Eagles from Irvine."

Getting a little thin in the backcourt; a good chance for others to step it up, Derrick, David!!

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:28 am

I'd rather see them play at UW, so that's ok. Let's hope they heal quickly.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Pilot2002 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:50 am

I am looking forward to tonight's game! With Riley & Waterford out it should give us a chance to see K Bailey and Thieleke get meaningful minutes. I am really looking forward to seeing this freshman class.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Guest on Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:29 pm

I think we can all agree that the referees were making questionable calls at times, but let's focus on the play and the players.

First off, David Carr hits the final shot (I believe), so congrats to him!

The play was rather sloppy at times, and the game was closer than I would have liked. But at least the guys felt some of that pressure early on and came away with a win.

Lastly, FREE THROWS: They will make or break your team. Every close game lost is generally lost by free throws in my opinion. You have to make those and the guys need some work on that.

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:55 pm

Yep, David Carr, welcome to the show. Kevin Bailey and Cason had some good periods out there as well. I'm looking forward to seeing how Nicholas and Barker develop over the season.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Rob's Jacket on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:15 pm

Not hitting free throws down the stretch seems like it's been a problem for a while.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by oldtimer on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:20 pm

Holy Cow! What a game. Nothing like an OT thriller in exhibition to get you mentally prepared for next weekend. Of course a TON of turnovers but TD accounted for 10 of them and he will be able to cut down on those with more time on the court. Rebounding was the difference here, CU had 21 points off second chances, need to cut those well off. Wings need to box out! It doesnt do a lot of good when for example Barker and Ryan seal off their men and perimater players swoop in and grab the board. Team game gentlemen in all facets.
A lot of good things to take away however. Carr played well, Kevin continues to impress just need Nem to get back to A game form. It will continue to be a win by comittee team, nothing wrong with that but I like our group, cant say they arent exciting.......

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by wrv on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:32 pm

Ryan Nicholas may not be the best choice to throw in the ball in the waning moments of a game--what a lapse in judgment and the long throws to a streaking big, who in the unlikely event he caught the ball, would still have lost it. This happened not once but twice. Of course our guards could have done a better job of hustling to get open rather than planting themselves despite being pressed.

The freshmen appeared better than the sophmores: Carr, Bailey and Caison need to be on the court. Each arguably contributes at their position. Though Riley did not play, there was plenty of firepower.

Van Der Mars has questionable hands--sure had a time holding on to balls that went through his hands, perhaps two of Douglass' turnovers, but he can rebound--an apparent weakness of this version of the squad.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by oldtimer on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:55 pm

wrv- valid points but there were a lot of positives out there, some of them intangibales. We are deeper than last year, we have two players at each position that will play. Last year the team got tired because of just the lack of what we are doing so far this season. We need to peak later in the season rather than the first half. We overplayed some positions and it showed.
This year it will be a combination of classes playing this year. It would be great if the starters averaged around 24 minutes a game this year. That is a perfect amount of game time to make sure they are balanced from start to finish of the season. And we have freshmen that can average the remaining minutes and everyone gets a chance to improve and grow. With that said I like who starts and even more who is ending the games.
The beauty of this kind of team is that they arent dependent on one or two guys to be there night after night. We have a lot of players that can score and play defense. Some nights like tonight Tim may lead scorers, but on any night Barker can, Nem will, Tanner Bailey and Carr will be fantastic as well. Nicholas is alwyas going to be consistent with his game. Balance. Five scored in double digits tonight and that is a great example of being balanced.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by up7587 on Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:15 am

Inbounds plays were a problem all last year, and there are still obvious issues as mentioned. Not understanding why the guys don't run the baseline after made baskets to help with the passing lanes.

Not only did the 'over the top' inbounds passes not work, but there were several lobs to the post players that failed. Need to improve there. Way fewer 3-pt attempts tonight, shooting 5 of 11 instead of the 3 of 20 performance last week. Good to see that. Hate to see the 8 point lead lost to end the regulation time; seemed to me some of the shots taken were ill advised when more time could have been burned off the clock.

So far coach is playing with a deep bench, using all but one scholarship player and the two injured players. That will help next weekend in the 3 game tournament. I will be interested to see if the rotation tightens up as the season develops.

Really good student attendance for the exhibition games. Good enthusiasm from the front row group, plus some natty outfits. cheers


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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:42 am

oldtimer wrote:Holy Cow! What a game
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I couldn't agree more!! Oldtimer, wrv, and up7587 gave expert analysis of tonight's excitement, so I will only add one thought. One player was much improved and much more "in charge" this year over last, Derrick Rodgers. He's no scorer like Tim, but he's strong, tough, and athletic. When he took over for Tim there was no let-up in the tempo, and his 3 turnovers with 3 assists and 6 points (in 13 minutes) compare favorably with TD at the beginning of last year and certainly with Eric.

Holy Cow; I don't think we'll see a more exciting game this year! Rev has said we may not win as many games with this young team as we're used to, but "we'll be entertaining." Loved the enthusiasm from the Schoenfelt Hall crowd; they added something that's really been missing for a long time -- good old college enthusiasm. And yes, those natty sweater vests with crests (and ties too) added a great Catholic School charm to the student body(although they may not want to hear themselves described as "charming").

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:55 am

I like the energy from the student section. This kind of buzz has been missing from them for a few years. I love hearing the scoreboard chant but maybe next time wait until there's less than 13 minutes to go with a six point lead. Exhibition games are for learning. Wink

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by PilotNut on Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:00 pm

Exciting game, for sure... Riley Barker is going to be good. Really good.

Kevin Bailey had some great moves, too... this team is WAY more athletic than any in recent history; I cant wait to watch them develop!

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by mattywizz on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:46 am

Would like to see a little more situational awareness from Carr. I mean, if he would have pulled up from three every fan in attendance would have had the chance to enjoy a chalupa gratis on their way home.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by wrv on Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:10 am

There are levels of misconduct among student athletes that on their face are hard to detect, but of which the athletic department needs to remain perpetually vigilant.

A scholarship issue it may not be, but this is the first offense for Carr.

Thanks for making public something which should not be merely personal.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Guest on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:34 am

wrv wrote:There are levels of misconduct among student athletes that on their face are hard to detect, but of which the athletic department needs to remain perpetually vigilant.

A scholarship issue it may not be, but this is the first offense for Carr.

Thanks for making public something which should not be merely personal.

Maybe I am missing something (missing the joke? Sarcasm?), but what misconduct?

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Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:48 am

mattywizz wrote:Would like to see a little more situational awareness from Carr. I mean, if he would have pulled up from three every fan in attendance would have had the chance to enjoy a chalupa gratis on their way home.
wrv wrote:There are levels of misconduct among student athletes that on their face are hard to detect, but of which the athletic department needs to remain perpetually vigilant.

A scholarship issue it may not be, but this is the first offense for Carr.

Thanks for making public something which should not be merely personal.
RipCityPilot wrote:Maybe I am missing something (missing the joke? Sarcasm?), but what misconduct?
Loads of sarcasm, RCP.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by up7587 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:42 pm

Perhaps that extra hour of sleep last night has RCP a little groggy this morning. Or WRV needs to use Razz more. It gave me a good chuckle. Laughing

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Guest on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:41 pm

Okay... I made the connection now. Thanks guys. Now, could someone with inside connections tell me why the old three point line is still on the floor?

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Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:55 pm

RipCityPilot wrote:Okay... I made the connection now. Thanks guys. Now, could someone with inside connections tell me why the old three point line is still on the floor?
I have no inside connections, but I'm gonna go with $$$. That and, even though we aren't hosting many HS events anymore, we still could since it's there.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:42 pm

RipCityPilot wrote:Okay... I made the connection now. Thanks guys. Now, could someone with inside connections tell me why the old three point line is still on the floor?


....Because the three point range for men and women haven't changed from last year?

Just a guess.

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Ok, it's not a guess. The women still shoot from 19'9" and the men have been shooting from 20'9" since the 2008-2009 season.

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Guest on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:47 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:
RipCityPilot wrote:Okay... I made the connection now. Thanks guys. Now, could someone with inside connections tell me why the old three point line is still on the floor?


....Because the three point range for men and women haven't changed from last year?

Just a guess.

Spoiler:
Ok, it's not a guess. The women still shoot from 19'9" and the men have been shooting from 20'9" since the 2008-2009 season.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/May/Womens+Basketball+Rules+Committee+proposes+to+move+three+point+line+back+a+foot

It was approved.

Also, here is a photo from our friends in Moraga of their new court:

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Re: Looking Ahead: Concordia Irvine 11/4

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:52 pm

Haha. Second try.
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Because I'm not the only one who didn't get the memo?

We just had the court redone a year ago.

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