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Post by DTLegend on Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:28 am

One of my favorite parts of being a college basketball fan is speculating on recruits. Over the past 5 years, Rev has done an outstanding job finding the right pieces to build a program. As stated previously, the University hopes to compete nationally year-in and year-out and to do so these next few recruiting classes will be vital in achieving those goals. Looking ahead to next season we should have two open scholarships, and one of those scholarships is going to verbal commit, Jake Ehlers out of Corvallis. The following year, we will have one available scholarship.

After doing a little research on a few sites (http://highschoolsports.oregonlive.com/recruiting/?criteria=&x=19&y=4 , ESPN) it looks like we have an offer out to Jordan Tebbutt (2012) and to Cullen Neal (2013). There is some more info on Cullen Neal here http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/tag/cullen-neal/ . It looks like we are also interested in TJ Flowers via oregonian and Dyshawn Pierre out of canada via ESPN.

I just wanted to share the info I had aquired and also see if anyone had heard anything else that I may have missed. Something exciting is that are two available scholarships that are offered are to two players who would be, if they signed with us, the highest rated recruits we've had in a long time.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by blacksheep on Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:54 am

From Rev's twitter page:


CoachRevenoEric Reveno

23 hours in New York. Saw great games. Loading back on a plane to get back for practice. Film, practice and lift this afternoon.

8 hours ago

CoachRevenoEric Reveno

Just missed the upgrade on my red-eye to New York for recruiting. Story of my night. Just missed. #keepgrinding

Anyone know who he was looking at in NY?

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 pm

blacksheep wrote:Anyone know who he was looking at in NY?
Well, not specifically, but Canarias Basketball Academy is currently in the U.S. on a weeklong tour and played in New Rochelle, NY yesterday (Sunday). I doubt he’s looking for another Thomas van der Mars, but Coach Reveno has a good working relationship with Canarias Coach Rob Orellana. Smile

The BIG man everyone is looking at on the Canarias team is Boris Bojanovsky, a 7’3” native of the Slovak Republic – he’s being recruited by a number of BIG schools.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by PilotNut on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 pm

For clarification, Ehlers signed in the early period last fall. (LINK)

We are going to need another PG... Next year, we lose Waterford to graduation, Rodgers will be a Senior and Douglas a Junior... We only have 1 open spot next year (after Ehlers), and 1 the year after (Rodgers' spot). It seems to me 1 of the 2 open scholarships the next 2 years needs to be a PG...?

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by Stonehouse on Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:18 pm

Hmmm... Canarias lists Portland as a school that will be in attendance in NY:

http://www.cbacademy.org/index.asp?modulo=23&id=93&idioma=en


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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by Geezaldinho on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:15 pm

I saw a tweet where a scout listed the coaches there, Rev was not one, but that doesn't mean he wasn't there.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by wrv on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:29 pm

Does this mean that at this relatively late date in the recruiting process the Pilots are not yet decided on who they might offer a scholarship? Have we missed on prospects? Assuming we have one scholarship left as no one defects, perhaps we should be concerned that the coach now sits in a crowded gym with 30 other D1 coaches. . .but Thomas Van der Mars was a bolt out of the azul . . .

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by upsailor on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:44 pm

it has been mentioned that we do have an offer or two, the player from lincoln and the player, tarbutt (sp) and i'm sure a couple of others. but i don't think many coaches are going to give a laundry list to their peers.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:02 pm

wrv wrote:Does this mean that at this relatively late date in the recruiting process the Pilots are not yet decided on who they might offer a scholarship?
Yes, that’s absolutely true! You’ve got to remember many recruits think they can go to a BIG school, so there can be a lot of offer shuffling right through the signing period (this year April 11 – May 16). Often a school will make an offer, and then have to retract it as another offer is accepted by some other recruit, and so on. scratch

As PilotNut surmised, we need a point guard, but they are very, very hard to come by out of high school because too many think they are good enough to start at BIG schools, but end up on the bench for a majority of the time. There are a number of point guards sitting on benches throughout D-1 that could start at UP. It’s definitely a tightrope that needs to be walked by our recruiters and the potential recruits.

Upsailor mentioned Jordan Tebutt as a recruit, and he’s a good example. When he was at Horizon Christian he looked to be a possibility for UP or other WCC school, but after transferring to Oak Hill Academy, he has a much higher profile and will probably end up in the PAC -12.

A good recruit as a shooting guard in 2013 would be Cullen Neal in Albuquerque, but it's probably too soon to make an offer there. He'd be a good eventual replacement for Tanner or a late replacement for Nem. T.J. Flowers (Lincoln, Portland) has received a great deal of attention from PAC-12 schools and at least 2 or 3 scholarship offers, but he too is a shooting guard.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DTLegend on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:12 am

I'm pretty sure we have made an offer to Neal. But like a lot of talent, the big conference schools are now in the mix a little
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cullen-Neal-128207;_ylt=AntxbCslC4ktcM2PHgEplNTXO5B4

http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/tag/cullen-neal/


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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:44 am

J.T. Flowers and Jordan Tebutt mentioned in Oregonian article about high profile recruits waiting....................

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/boys_basketball_no_need_to_rus.html

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:01 pm

The ability to evaluate where prominent programs stand at their particular playing position is one reason the cream of recruiting classes delay their decision until the late signing period. Jefferson coach Pat Strickland said that wasn't the case for Jones; instead, he wanted to help showcase teammates. Jones felt if college coaches watched his senior season, they might also notice his Jefferson teammates.
I respect the hell out of Jones' decision. That's really cool and something I wouldn't have considered as motivation to sign late. Selflessness!

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:30 am

Portland has been looking at a kid at Vancouver’s Columbia River HS, Isaiah Smith, who recently stated, "The Pac-12 is definitely a possibility, but that's not what I'm expecting. I have a lot of work to do. I'm keeping my options open. But I kind of see myself playing in the WCC.”

That got me to thinking, which conference would actually be at a higher level?

Well, just looking at the NCAA Official Ratings Percentage Index (RPI), it would seem the PAC-12 is stronger top to bottom. But, it would appear this year the WCC will have a better chance of landing more at-large teams in the NCAA Tournament. Just for fun, here are the teams listed in order of PPI:

St. Mary’s - 23
Gonzaga - 26
BYU - 43
Cal – 48
Arizona – 66
Colorado – 68
Washington – 71
Oregon – 79
Stanford – 99
Loyola Marymount – 110
Oregon State – 119
UCLA – 26
San Francisco – 157
Washington State – 170
San Diego – 197
Portland – 208
Arizona State – 215
Southern Cal – 227
Utah – 263
Pepperdine – 278
Santa Clara – 287

It would appear the PAC-12 Tournament will actually be meaningful this year, and the WCC Tournament could be just a stepping-stone for three teams this year. Very Happy

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:44 pm

Bad news on the recruiting front, per @JoelFranESPN on Twitter:

St. Mary's has snagged a good one in 6-4 junior Cullen Neal (son of Craig "Noodles" Neal)...multi-skilled/can play both guard positions

UP had an offer out to him.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:16 pm

NoPoNeighbor wrote:
St. Mary's has snagged a good one in 6-4 junior Cullen Neal (son of Craig "Noodles" Neal)...multi-skilled/can play both guard positions
Goodbye Matthew, hello Cullen. Great catch for St. Mary's, but do they know he's from Albuquerque, not Adelaide?Razz

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by NoPoNeighbor on Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:19 pm

Tough for the Pilots to compete with St. Mary's for recruits while they are ranked in the top 20.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by wrv on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:56 am

St. Mary's has been good in men's basketball for a quite some time. But with Reveno in the driver seat (let's hope that lasts) I think the Pilots have hope of landing some players over the Gaels. The impolite, politically incorrect part of me recalls enjoying my experience at UP and thinks that prospective recruits would prefer it to being exiled in Moraga.

We need a point that can score, run the break, run the offense, limit turnovers, shoot the three and play defense . . . and apparently a 2 guard as well . . .any leads, volunteers?

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New Recruit Evaluation Period(s)

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:16 pm

Kiss the wife and kids goodbye if you’re a college men’s basketball coach, beginning tomorrow, college coaches will be on the road for most of the next three weeks, traveling from coast-to-coast to track prospective recruits.

Beginning this year, there are three “live” evaluation periods, going from Wednesdays at 5 p.m. to Sunday at 5 p.m. This schedule contrasts with the previous two 10-day periods coaches had during July.

As the Pilots may not have any scholarships available until the 2014-15 season (that assumes that no one leaves early, and David Ahern absorbs Derrick Roger’s scholarship) I don’t think there will be much immediate excitement for us, but looking long-term, there will be a lot of talent to evaluate.

There are major events going on during all three periods, so here's a quick guide to the best ones throughout the month………in case you’re interested.

FIRST PERIOD (July 11-14)

• Adidas Invitational, Indianapolis – July 11-15
• Nike Global Challenge, Washington, D.C. – July 12-15
• Full-Court Press All-West Showcase, Long Beach, Calif. -- July 11-12
• Hall of Fame National Invitational, Springfield, Mass. -- July 13-15
• Hoop Group Elite Camp, Reading, Pa. – July 10-13
• Hoop Group Team Camp, Reading, Pa. – July 14-15
• NY2LA Sports Next Level Invitational, Mequon, Wisc. -- July 11-15
• Pangos Summer Sweet 16, Long Beach, Calif. -- July 13-15
• Reebok Breakout Challenge, Philadelphia – July 10-13
• Reebok Showdown Series Final, Philadelphia – July 13-15

SECOND PERIOD (July 18-21)

• Nike EYBL Final at Peach Jam, North Augusta, S.C. – July 18-21
• Under Armour Summer Jam, Milwaukee – July 18-22
• AAU Super Showcase, Lake Buena Vista, Fla. – July 18-23
• Best Buy Summer Classic, Bloomington, Minn. -- July 19-22
• Bigfoot Hoops Las Vegas Live, Las Vegas – July 18-22
• Double Pump Best of Summer, Anaheim, Calif. -- July 18-22
• Full-Court Press Cream of the Crop Challenge, Long Beach, Calif. -- July 19-22
• Hoop Group West Virginia Jam Fest, Morgantown, W.Va. – July 18-19
• Hoop Group Summer Classic East, King of Prussia, Pa. – July 18-19
• Peach State Summer Showcase, Aiken, S.C. – July 18-22

THIRD PERIOD (July 25-29)

• Adidas Super 64, Las Vegas – July 25-30
• Fab 48, Las Vegas – July 26-29
• Bigfoot Hoops Las Vegas Classic, Las Vegas – July 25-29
• AAU Nationals, Lake Buena Vista, Fla. – July 24-30
• Double Pump Pump 'N Run, Anaheim, Calif. -- July 25-29
• Live in AC, Atlantic City, N.J. – July 25-27

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July 2.0 recruiting

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:32 pm

Dave Telep from ESPN.com comments on the new evaluation period rules:
1) A shorter window for evaluation

Welcome to July 2.0, the NCAA’s answer to a request by the college basketball coaches. The past few years, college coaches were shut out of the spring evaluation period, told to stay home while AAU teams hooped it up in April.

The coaches begged for another chance, promised to behave if they were allowed back. The NCAA conceded, but the currency to pay for the concession came in the month of July.

The NCAA shortened the July evaluation period, creating three, four-day windows for events without really asking anyone’s opinion. What we now have is a shortened July in which event directors cram the same number of events into a tighter schedule. Will it work? What are the ramifications? Well, until we go through a complete cycle, we can only speculate.

The first impression is that travel is difficult. The windows to see players close quicker in the new format, so being in multiple places is exponentially harder. The big dogs with the private planes and astronomical budgets will have to manage their time well. The guys in the low and mid-major leagues who can’t afford to travel the same way are forced to make tough decisions and be crisp with their plans.

Murray State doesn’t have Kentucky’s budget and therefore travel decisions are played out on a different economic field. While UK can gas up, wheels up and off to another city, Murray might be anchored in a spot to ride out an event. Will the Racers see fewer players than in a typical recruiting cycle? Most believe the answer is yes.

The effect on the players themselves will be minimal. They’ll notice less time to recover and relocate to the next event. Maybe in the past, they squeezed out a day or two at home between events. With the new calendar, that might not be an option.

Any time you take a calendar and shave off days without eliminating events, you’re putting everything into a vice and squeezing. There’s a breaking point. The questions on everyone’s minds -- have we reached it, can it be squeezed tighter, or do all of the actors involved need more time for the month to play out?

The only way to judge is to go through a cycle, take notes and gauge if it worked. In Year 1 of the new rules, that’s exactly what we’re doing.

2) NCAA strikes a blow aimed at agents

Days before the July period tipped off, the NCAA set off a bottle rocket aimed at sports agents. An email allegedly from agent Andy Miller led to the banning of four AAU teams, the muscle behind their operations and the removal of four familiar faces from this month’s summer scene.

The NCAA said these team operators couldn’t command their clubs in July and needed to step away. Basically, they banned T.J. Gassnola, Matt Ramker, Desmond Eastmond and Tony Edwards.

Behind the curtain, the NCAA aimed its limited powers in this matter at something it had control over: team certification for the month of July. However, the real goal was to out an agent who they may have suspected of funneling money and expenses to third parties and filtering it down the food chain. It’s no secret that in the grassroots world, agents and runners plant seed money among willing third-party participants.

The ban of the four men serves as a wake-up call to others who have direct and indirect ties to agents. There are others out there. They’re difficult to catch and even more difficult to try proving guilty. To me, this move by the NCAA indicates that no matter how slim the evidence may be, the NCAA is going to act and won’t be afraid to peek into Pandora’s box.

The NCAA did what it could by banning three of the four teams, removing their muscle and allowing the prospects who were not sanctioned to find alternative teams. One team kicked out its coach; two more changed names and distanced themselves from the named parties. The good news is that the kids who need scholarships haven’t been affected.

The timing of the decision to ban had to be planned. Days before the July period tipped, the NCAA acted. It was high-profile and highly effective in terms of shedding light on a problem. It didn’t solve the problem, but it put everyone on alert and sent a flare across the bow of those who are thinking about circumventing the system, no matter how loose it is.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:32 pm

Recruit evaluation periods are not the only changes that have occurred on the recruiting calendar. Here is a sample from some coaches on what they like and don't like about the tweaks from Andy Katz at ESPN.com (edited).
1. Getting to work out players for two hours a week has been a huge plus.
This has been the most popular idea. If the players are in summer school, coaches have access to them during the week for a limited amount of time.

"The ability to work out your players is a tremendous tool for evaluation and improvement," UIC coach Howard Moore said.

"Access to our own players is a tremendous rule change," added Marshall's Tom Herrion. "It's the best rule passed in modern memory."

Cincinnati's Mick Cronin called it "the best rule change in 15 years. It also helps in recruiting because you have a better feel for what your team lacks and what you need to recruit."

2. The weekend (evaluation) schedule sounds great in principle but could cause some travel issues.

If a coach has a private plane, there are no issues. Getting into a city for a 5 p.m. start won't be a problem. But for a coach who has to fly commercially -- which the majority do -- relying on an unreliable airline industry can be costly. At least that's the fear heading into the evaluation period.

"This will increase private jets for coaches, especially head coaches, because you can't take a chance commercially with delays and miss a whole day of recruiting," Ryan said.

Long Beach State coach Dan Monson cautioned about the weekend plan with no long break in the middle.
"The new calendar has very little break in it," Monson said. "You probably will have to travel on the dead days."
Towson coach Pat Skerry shared the same concern.

"The three periods in July will make travel difficult for any school that does not have usage of a private plane, which is almost everyone," Skerry said. "It will be tough to miss part of a day."

Herrion said the new schedule will allow coaches to get back to campus -- for at least the first few days of the week -- and work out with players.

"And coaches can't forget that we got two valuable weekends back in April," he said.

3. There are mixed concerns on shorter periods for the high school players.

Cronin points out that the shorter periods will lead to better play, which in turn will help coaches evaluate more effectively. But there were concerns about whether the time periods between events is too tight and might lead to the players staying on the road since there wouldn't be enough days to get from a Sunday night conclusion of an event to a Wednesday start time depending on the next locale.

Ryan said it should help with costs since the windows are tight over a four-day period and coaches will probably stay at one site more than they have in the past.

"But I think there will be some AAU teams that won't see home from July 11 until the end of the month since they have to get to the next city," he said.

4. Allowing unlimited text messaging has been a plus -- so far.

Talking on the phone for teenagers -- and adults -- had been the norm. But communicating via text message, Facebook or Twitter is the new trend.

That's why the archaic NCAA finally adjusted to the new medium of communication.

"Unlimited calls and texts allows coaches and recruits to see who really likes who on both ends," Cronin said.
"Kids are more responsive to texting as opposed to talking," Moore said. "And unlimited phone calls to prospects means no more phone logs."

NC State coach Mark Gottfried said the new communication rules reward hard work.

But Skerry said caution needs to be shown so the recruit won't be burdened.

"Unlimited phone calls and texts to rising seniors is probably a positive, but it's too early to tell," he said. "But unlimited calls and texts to 2014 guys is a negative, in my mind. Too many kids will get over-recruited too early."

5. The NCAA missed out on a few other tweaks, apparently.

Gottfried says the unofficial visits should be allowed in July until the first day of recruiting on July 10 and on the final two days of the month after recruiting is over.

Gottfried would also like to see all four coaches on the staff out on the road for the days allowed, which would save money. Only three coaches can be out at one time, so teams wouldn't have one flying back just to send the other coach out.

Coaching staffs handle some aspect of the coaching even if they're not technically allowed to do so.

Do you think in his director of basketball operations position (under Kansas' Bill Self) that Barry Hinson, now the Southern Illinois coach, did not coach? Does anyone believe Karl Hobbs, who held the same position as Hinson at UConn, doesn't do any coaching for the Huskies? The answer is no for both.

Having all coaches treated as equals in recruiting makes the most sense.

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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:04 pm

Anybody know anything about this guy?


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7/13/12 6:42 PM
6'3" G Grant Sims of Bloomington North HS (2014) has picked up an offer from Portland.


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Re: Recruiting Update

Post by DoubleDipper on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:12 pm

Yea, that came through early this evening (Indiana time) from Grant himself after his AAU game at Westfield High School (IN):
Just picked up an offer from Portland
I know he's a 2 and a pretty darn good shooter, but I'd guess it's a stretch to think he'll leave the midwest....we've got at least 16 months to find out. Cool

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