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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:15 pm

In the ACC, UNC, Wake , and Maryland move on. the most interesting one was the Wake-FSU game.

FSU went into the game at #12 and came out on the losing end with the same RPI rank. now they sit as a #3 seed until the tournament.

The thing is, Mark Krikorian started his second team, which suggests he was willing to concede a loss to rest his players.

maybe he saw that one or even two wins wasn't going to improve his chances to a #2 seed and he preferred the rest.



OK beat Texas in the Big 12 (9?)

OK st plays later, TAMU is at 0 with Colorado in the second half

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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:39 pm

OK state won their game against TT 3-1 --good for our RPI.

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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:51 pm

A little more on Krikorian's decision to not play his starters. He apparently didn't even take his starters to WakeMed to make a statement.

FSU coach leaves top players home

What isn't spelled out in the article is how the ACC arranged the end of the season and the ACC tournament this year. It arranged for UNC, Wake, and Duke to play their games with each other at the end of the season, then scheduled the tournament at WakeMed. this means those teams will have spent most of the second half of their ACC games at home, while FSU will have spent them all on the road.

If FSU made it though to the end of the the tournament, it would have played 5 games all on the road, and the tournament in Wake and UNC sleep-in-your-own-bed territory. They played Maryland and BC on the road to end the regular season.

UNC, on the other hand, Played Florida and Miami at home, then mighty Clemson at Clemson, then finished out with Maryland, Duke,Wake,and Va Tech all within cab ride distance. They play Wake and a possible final game in close proximity to home also.

Wake didn't get it quite as good, but they got their last 3 regular season games and the tournament close to home.


from the article --

The move could alter the result of the three-round tournament, and drew sharp criticism from Nora Lynn Finch, an ACC associate commissioner.

“The integrity of this championship is important,”


Really commissioner? Then why did you make up that schedule?

Oh -- from her ACC Bio --

1970 graduate of Western Carolina, Finch graduated magna cum laude with a bachelor's degree in education and also earned a master's degree in education from Western Carolina. Before joining NC State, she directed the women's basketball teams at Wake Forest University (1971-73) and Peace College (1973-77) and was also Director of Athletics at Peace College (1973-77).



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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:12 pm

The move could alter the result of the three-round tournament, and drew sharp criticism from Nora Lynn Finch, an ACC associate commissioner.

“The integrity of this championship is important,”

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLZZZZZ!!!!11!

Nora Lynn Finch, please forward your resume to Sepp Blatter at FIFA. You have a future in world soccer.

This reminds me of something that happened in England last year. Wolverhampton Wanderers (Wolves) are a smaller club in the Premier League. Last season, they had a game against Man Utd and a cup tie a few days later. Their manager knew it would be a struggle against Man Utd. no matter who he played, and they would have a good shot at winning the cup tie if he played his first team. So, he fielded a second choice side against Man Utd. and lost, as expected.

They way the EPL acted you would have thought he was caught on tape telling his players to throw the game. He got fined reprimanded. When one of the big clubs like Man Utd or Chelsea fields its second choice team in a League or FA Cup game nobody bats an eye. The usual explanation is that they are focused on winning the league. But heaven forbid the manager of a smaller club should set up his team so that they can perform well in a competition they have a chance of making a decent showing in. To Wolves, finishing comfortably out of the relegation zone is a good season in the league but there's always the possibility of winning in the cup competitions. The Wolves manager knew this, and so did all the soccer media who railed against the EPL's decision.

Every coach has to prioritize the competitions when managing players. This is part of the game. So, unfortunately, are high and mighty attitudes at the top.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:17 pm

It gets better. the ACC assistant director of Championships, a Kris W. Pierce, the most senior person listed with a like title, and person who presumably had a lot to do with the schedule, is a UNC grad. Embarassed

At first I thought of Christy Pearce (Rampone) That would have been better.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:00 am

Better yet.

The commissioner of the ACC was the AD at UNC for 17 years. And Anson Dorrance's former boss.

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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:47 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:Better yet.

The commissioner of the ACC was the AD at UNC for 17 years. And Anson Dorrance's former boss.
Like I said, a perfect fit to join the snake pit that is FIFA.

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Post by DaTruRochin on Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:09 pm

Do you think Sepp would make the same suggestions for board meeting attire as he did for women's uniforms if Nora joined the FIFA brass??

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The commish weighs in

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:49 pm

Associate Commisioner Finch (Wake ex-coach) just got the backing of the ACC commisioner Swoford (ex UNC athletic director and former Anson boss) in her effort to discipline Mark Krikorian over his actions in dissent of assistant commissioner for Championships Pierce's (UNC grad) scheduling UNC with 10 of 11 games in the Chapel Hill area in a row (lowly Clemson was the lone travel date) to close out ACC competition.
Wake and Duke (if it had won) were/are on track for 6 home dates in a row.

FSU would have had to play 5 away dates in a row if the finished the ACC tourney.

College soccer

FSU's depleted tourney squad angers ACC

CARY, N.C. — ACC commissioner John Swofford said Thursday he's "highly disappointed" Florida State didn't bring several starters to the league's women's soccer tournament.

After Wednesday's 3-1 loss to Wake Forest in the quarterfinals, Seminoles coach Mark Krikorian called it "a coach's decision" to leave at home seven players who made the all-ACC first or second teams in an apparent attempt to rest them for the upcoming NCAA tournament.

In a statement issued Thursday by the league, Swofford called the decision disrespectful because it "undermines the purity of the competition that a conference championship deserves."

He added conference action will be forthcoming.


I love it when the perps start using the "purity of the competition" clause

It's like watching the Titanic slowly grind into the iceberg.


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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by Geezaldinho on Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:34 pm

FSU coach Mark Krikorian explains himself to TopDrawerSoccer in this article

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer/college-soccer-archives/nid-18671/FL-State-keeps-top-players-out-of-ACC-Tourney

I see he mentions the 5 road games in a row FSU was expected to take (while Wake had 6 straight games near home and UNC had 10 of 11)

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:51 am

Geezaldinho wrote:Associate Commisioner Finch (Wake ex-coach) just got the backing of the ACC commisioner Swoford (ex UNC athletic director and former Anson boss) in her effort to discipline Mark Krikorian over his actions in dissent of assistant commissioner for Championships Pierce's (UNC grad) scheduling UNC with 10 of 11 games in the Chapel Hill area in a row (lowly Clemson was the lone travel date) to close out ACC competition.
Wake and Duke (if it had won) were/are on track for 6 home dates in a row.

FSU would have had to play 6 away dates in a row if the finished the ACC tourney.

College soccer

FSU's depleted tourney squad angers ACC

CARY, N.C. — ACC commissioner John Swofford said Thursday he's "highly disappointed" Florida State didn't bring several starters to the league's women's soccer tournament.

After Wednesday's 3-1 loss to Wake Forest in the quarterfinals, Seminoles coach Mark Krikorian called it "a coach's decision" to leave at home seven players who made the all-ACC first or second teams in an apparent attempt to rest them for the upcoming NCAA tournament.

In a statement issued Thursday by the league, Swofford called the decision disrespectful because it "undermines the purity of the competition that a conference championship deserves."

He added conference action will be forthcoming.


I love it when the perps start using the "purity of the competition" clause

It's like watching the Titanic slowly grind into the iceberg.
Morons. All of them (at the ACC, not the coach).

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down comes the blade

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:50 pm

Nov. 5, 2010



Greensboro, NC – Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford announced today the following sanctions against Florida State for its decision not to bring its starters to this year’s ACC Women’s Soccer Championship, leaving them in Tallahassee:

Suspension of head coach Mark Krikorian for Florida State’s next contest. This is inclusive of the first game in the NCAA Tournament, if Florida State is selected.
Forfeit of Florida State’s ACC Women’s Soccer Championship expense reimbursement (approximately $15,000).
Florida State will be assessed a fine of $25,000. This fine will be applied directly to the ACC Post Graduate Scholarship Fund.
A letter of reprimand from the Atlantic Coast Conference to Randy Spetman, Director of Athletics and Mark Krikorian, Head Women’s Soccer Coach.
Formal letter of apology (submitted by November 12) from Randy Spetman and Mark Krikorian, addressed to the Office of the Commissioner with a copy to the Faculty Athletics Representatives, Athletic Directors, Senior Woman Administrators and ACC Women’s Soccer Coaches.
“I’m highly disappointed in the decision Florida State made and the integrity of our championships should never be compromised,” said Commissioner Swofford. “It’s important that the value of sportsmanship and leadership continue to be paramount in this league.”


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Post by A_Fan on Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:25 pm

Ha ha, that last sentence is a scream.

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Post by irish78 on Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:41 pm

North Carolina loses to Wake Forest in pks.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:47 pm

no doubt because Wake was fresher Smile

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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by ktinpurple on Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:39 pm

Geezaldinho wrote:
Nov. 5, 2010



Greensboro, NC – Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford announced today the following sanctions against Florida State for its decision not to bring its starters to this year’s ACC Women’s Soccer Championship, leaving them in Tallahassee:

Suspension of head coach Mark Krikorian for Florida State’s next contest. This is inclusive of the first game in the NCAA Tournament, if Florida State is selected.
Forfeit of Florida State’s ACC Women’s Soccer Championship expense reimbursement (approximately $15,000).
Florida State will be assessed a fine of $25,000. This fine will be applied directly to the ACC Post Graduate Scholarship Fund.
A letter of reprimand from the Atlantic Coast Conference to Randy Spetman, Director of Athletics and Mark Krikorian, Head Women’s Soccer Coach.
Formal letter of apology (submitted by November 12) from Randy Spetman and Mark Krikorian, addressed to the Office of the Commissioner with a copy to the Faculty Athletics Representatives, Athletic Directors, Senior Woman Administrators and ACC Women’s Soccer Coaches.
“I’m highly disappointed in the decision Florida State made and the integrity of our championships should never be compromised,” said Commissioner Swofford. “It’s important that the value of sportsmanship and leadership continue to be paramount in this league.”


This disgusts me. Seriously.

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Re: Other scores - final week

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:56 pm

Anson didn't play Given, Dunn, and Jones. I wonder if he'll get a reprimand?

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Post by DaTruRochin on Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:35 pm

WOW... Talk about an overreaction...

I think I have a revealing background video that might shed some light on that ACC bigwig mindset:


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Post by VillaGorilla on Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:22 pm

Remember. College sports is about the students.

I have trouble articulating my disgust on this.


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Post by purple haze on Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:03 pm

I'm glad to be on the other side of the country from this mess.

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Post by uclabobby on Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:17 pm

Just to clarify... the punishment is exclusively for the reason that players did not travel, right? Because the coach has the right to play whomever he wants, everyone on that team who did play is a good player, and 3-1 is a normal, competitive score.


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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:04 pm

He gets suspended for the NCAA first round? Didn't know the Asinine Clowns Conference had control over what happened in the NCAA tournament. It is the NCAA's show after all.

I wonder if Garrett will get reprimanded should he rest some of the first team tomorrow.

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Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:14 pm

Garrett won't rest anyone unless the game is very well in hand. Winning this game is a must, and the whole team knows it.

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:25 pm

UPSoccerFanatic wrote:Garrett won't rest anyone unless the game is very well in hand. Winning this game is a must, and the whole team knows it.
If I were him I'd call the WCC commish from the bench to get permission before I made the subs, just to be safe.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:19 am

I was just thinking that FSU has a free date now for the last week of next season. maybe Garrett needs to call Mark.

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