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Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:38 pm

UNC and Stanford battled to a 2-2 tie after 110 120 minutes (final).
Washington State lost to Long BeachState 2-1
Boston College crushed Hofstra 5-0
UW beat Umass 3-0



UCLA and Wisconsin are tied halfway through the first half.

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by FANatic on Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:44 pm

In the past, teams have played two 10 minutes O.T. periods before calling it a tie.

You show UNC and Stanford tying after 120 minutes. Have the O.T. periods changed this season to two 15 minute periods?

(Actually, I hope they have changed. I never thought two tens was long enough to call it a draw. Of course, I understand the players probably think 20 minutes is too long already.) affraid

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:56 pm

No, you are right, the report on Gametracker must have been done by a monkey. I was peeking at gametracker and when it hit 110, I thought it was over, but it kept going. so I posted what they had. Maybe they forgot to stop the clock between periods

It struck me odd, but I was just leaving the house so I just posted what was there. Here's the NCAA 2010 rules on regular season games.

7.1.1 For regular-season games, two sudden-victory overtime periods of 10
minutes each shall be played. A coin toss called by the visiting team will
determine choice of ends of the field or the kickoff before the start of
the first sudden-victory overtime period. Teams shall change ends of the
field to start the second sudden-victory overtime period. If the score still
is tied at the end of the second sudden-victory overtime period, the game
will remain a tie for all purposes.

So, 110 minutes must have been it

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by Geezaldinho on Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:05 pm

other scores:

Cal and Santa Clara 0-0
Texas A&M 5, Virginia Tech 3
UCLA 1 Wisconsin 0
Rutgers 4 Colgate 1

Oklahoma State 1 Ducks 0

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Post by fan from afar on Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:15 am

Interesting scores - Stanford has 2 ties now, but against top teams. Probably won't hurt their RPI much, if at all.

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Post by Indigo Kid on Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:31 am

Penn State 1 - Virginia 1. Virginia scored with 3 minutes left.

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Post by Harry Redknapp on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:23 am

Spurs 0 Wigan 1

Give me a wide berth today or I might kick you.

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:09 am

Some early games:

Long Beach State 1:0 VA Tech still in the first half

Stanford 0:1 Duke in the 49th minute.

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:12 am

Stanford wakes up and ties it 2 minutes later.
And Press scores in the 74th 2:1

Final: Stanford 2:1 Duke

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Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:31 am

Stanford wins 2-1.

Long Beach State beats Virginia Tech 2-1. Makes Wazoo's 1-0 loss to LBS look better.

Northwestern leading UCLA 1-0 with 36' to play.

Monmouth leading Rutgers 1-0, early.

Parity is here?

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Post by SoreKnees on Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:44 am

UPSoccerFanatic wrote:

Parity is here?

Seems like there has been a strong trend toward parity for a decade or more. I don't think we'll ever see the old days where UNC, Notre Dame, UCLA, Portland, etc. rarely lost to anyone except each other. More likely we'll see only one or two teams getting to the tournament with fewer than 3-4 blemishes.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:49 am

Uconn, which has had a rocky start so far, is tied at nil with Virginia at the half.

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Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:15 am

It's final, Northwestern 1, UCLA 0.

GO PILOTS

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:22 am

Wow on the Bruins final

Final - Virginia 1:0 UCONN

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Post by Indigo Kid on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:02 pm

William and Mary 2 - Penn State 1. Doubled teamed by WIlliam and Mary together. Sounds like the play was not the greatest for PSU.

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Post by santa pilot on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:33 pm

Nice to see UCLA lose

Final U-O 0,SMU 0 after 2ots

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Post by SoreKnees on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:58 pm

Next opponent Wisconsin loses 0-1 at home to Cincinnati. Has to be disappointing sandwiched between the loss to UCLA and the game against UP on Friday.

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Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:28 pm

The WCC is cleaning up this year so far. this is really nice to see after a couple of the revious years.

Here's the NCsoccer composite for WCC teams, with a couple left to go yet.

http://www.nc-soccer.com/wsoccer/2010/composite


8/20 Friday 7-1-0
California vs. Loyola Marymount - W 2-1
Pepperdine vs. Fresno St. - W 2-0
(4)Portland vs. Portland St. - W 1-0
San Francisco vs. San Jose St. - W 2-1
(12)Santa Clara vs. San Diego St. - W 1-0
(18)Southern California vs. San Diego - L 0-1
St. Mary's (Cal.) vs. Nevada - W 1-0
#Utah vs. Gonzaga - L 1-2


8/22 Sunday 2-1-0
Cal St. Northridge vs. (4)Portland - L 1-2
#Gonzaga vs. (6)Florida St. - L 0-2
(12)Santa Clara vs. San Jose St. - W 2-1



8/27 Friday 4-1-2
California vs. (12)Santa Clara - T 0-0
Loyola Marymount vs. Denver - W 2-1
#Michigan vs. Pepperdine - W 1-0
#Nevada vs. Gonzaga - T 1-1
(4)Portland vs. SMU - W 2-0
San Diego vs. Arizona - W 4-1
San Francisco vs. North Fla. - W 2-1



8/29 Sunday 8-0-0
Cal St. Bakersfield (0-1-1) vs. Loyola Marymount (1-1-0) L 1-3
Montana (0-3-1) vs. Gonzaga (2-1-1) - L 2-3
#Pepperdine (2-1-0) vs. Arizona (0-2-0) - W 4-2
(4)Portland (4-0-0) vs. Oklahoma St. (2-1-0) - W 1-0
San Diego (2-0-0) vs. Michigan (2-0-1) - W 2-0
San Francisco (3-0-0) vs. UC Santa Barbara (3-1-0) - W 4-1
St. Mary's (Cal.) (2-0-0) vs. North Fla. (0-3-0) - W 4-3


WCC total so far 21-2-2

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Re: other scores - Week 2

Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:52 pm

The Geez mentioned earlier on this thread how the WCC is doing so far this year.

One of the things I watch is how the conferences' teams are doing in their non-conference games. I watch because if teams did not play non-conference games, the RPI would not be able to distinguish the teams of one conference from the teams of another conference. (An undefeated team from the Pac 10 would have essentially the same RPI as an undefeated team from the Southwestern Athletic Conference, which is by far the weakest conference.) It's the non-conference games that bring down the RPIs of teams from weak conferences and raise the RPIs of teams from strong conferences.

Apart from a team's own record, which accounts effectively for about 50% of a team's RPI, its opponents' records account effectively for about 40% and its opponents' opponents' records account for about 10%. That makes it worthwhile to look at opponents' records as the main contributing factor apart from the team's own record. Within the conference competition, the conference opponents' records when all added together will be about 50-50 from the conference competition. On the other hand, in the non-conference competition, conference teams' records when all added together can range from 100-0 (the best possible in terms of RPI) to 0-100 (the worst possible and just about where SWAC is).

I hope that makes sense. In any event, here are the "big" conferences' winning percentages over the first two weeks of games, with a tie counting as half a win and half a loss per the RPI:

ACC 27-7-4 = 76%
Big 12 24-9-2 = 71%
SEC 23-10-1 = 69%
Big 10 20-8-5 = 68%
Pac 10 13-9-6 = 57%

It's worth noting that these conferences' schools have played opponents of different strengths. However, in terms of what the teams within a conference contribute to their conference opponents' RPIs, as described above the main contribution comes from those opponents' records (40% of the RPI) and a much smaller contribution comes from those opponents' opponents' records (10%).

So where does the WCC fit in the above list?

WCC 20-3-2 = 84%

If the WCC can keep this up, we won't see the conference games imposing a negative gravitational pull on the Pilots' RPI such as we have seen in the last few years. Of course, we still will need to see the Pilots' non-conference opponents doing well over the balance of the year.

I have no idea whether the other WCC teams can continue to perform as they have so far.

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Post by fwill on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:22 am

UCLA is now out of the top ten rankings according to NSCAA (they are sitting at 11). How long do you suppose that will last?

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Post by Geezaldinho on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:58 am

fwill wrote:UCLA is now out of the top ten rankings according to NSCAA (they are sitting at 11). How long do you suppose that will last?

They play Northridge next, then Notre Dame.

If they loose either, they will stay in the hinterlands.

They also play SCU later.

Other than that, they might stay out until conference.

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Post by purple passion on Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:58 pm

Elizabeth Lambert Part @

It appears her suspension is over.

According to TopDrawerSoccer she is the #19 listed on the New Mexico Lobos roster as Liz Lambert.

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Post by purple passion on Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:59 pm

Ooops!!! That should read Part 2, not @

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Post by UPSoccerFanatic on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:59 pm

BYU 2, Northwestern 1 @ BYU.

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