So Wrong

With 9 common opponents between UCLA and UP, UP clearly has the edge.

Result vs UCLA Result vs UP
San Diego 1-1 2-0
Gonzaga 2-0 7-0
Pepperdine 2-0 6-0
California 1-0 4-0
Oregon 5-0 3-0
Oregon State 5-1 1-0
Washington 2-1 2-0
Washington State 2-0 2-1

Goals for/against 20-3 26-1
Record 8-0-1 9-0
What was the committee thinking???

Frankly, there have been many times where I've wondered the same thing. But, it is what it is. Time to make a run....!

Eh. Control what you can control. The Pilots will go where they have to go and take care of business. And UCLA has to win three games as well to get to that matchup...

Nice research, powerfan!

Here's what I don't get. Check out the RPI the NCAA released on Nov. 3:

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2009WSOrpi1.html

You'll notice UP is #3 and UCLA is #5.

So something must have happened over the last weekend. Portland beat San Diego (RPI #43) while UCLA beat Washington (RPI #23) and Washington State (RPI #13). Did those last two games give UCLA a big enough push to pass us? Maybe. But think about it this way - we beat a team that UCLA tied, while UCLA beat teams that we also beat. Really, the results from this past weekend should have been in our favor, not UCLA's. Maddening.

Mid-majors getting dumped on: It's not just for basketball anymore!

i'm just grateful we get to host the 1st three rounds after so many years of having #1 or #2 seeds an still having to go on the road for the 1st two rounds.

like ppt said, ucla has to get through its three games an the potential 2nd round match up for them is san diego which they tied earlier in the year.

PurplePrideTrumpet wrote:Mid-majors getting dumped on: It's not just for basketball anymore!

If I counted correctly, there were only four at-large bids to teams outside the "power conferences," to use the hoops term (the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, and SEC).

Two of them were SCU and USD from the WCC. There was also BYU (Mountain West) and UCF (C-USA). I know you can't compare soccer with basketball directly, but you see my point.

Did anyone else notice that the WCC member on the selection committee is the coach at University of San Diego? hmm... http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1WSO

Nothing doing there. Committee members have to leave the room when the discussion turns to their school, or even a school in their conference. I think it's safe to say the USD coach had nothing to do with where Portland, SCU, or USD were seeded.

Looking at the bracket it appears that the committee wants an east coast/west coast show down at the College Cup. While that might be interesting for some, I don't think that the committee members were justified in totally dismissing RPI and rankings in setting up the brackets. UP gets screwed again!

UP was overlooked again in the seeding, no doubt. But, looking at the bigger picture, I think we actually have a good seed in regards to getting to the college cup. First, we must take care of business at home. Then, assuming we meet UCLA, I have no doubt that we can beat them. I have seen them play a number of times, and we are a better side for sure. Let's get past the first couple of rounds at home and see what happens.

Stonehouse wrote:Nice research, powerfan!

Here's what I don't get. Check out the RPI the NCAA released on Nov. 3:

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2009WSOrpi1.html

You'll notice UP is #3 and UCLA is #5.

So something must have happened over the last weekend. Portland beat San Diego (RPI #43) while UCLA beat Washington (RPI #23) and Washington State (RPI #13). Did those last two games give UCLA a big enough push to pass us? Maybe. But think about it this way - we beat a team that UCLA tied, while UCLA beat teams that we also beat. Really, the results from this past weekend should have been in our favor, not UCLA's. Maddening.

What happened is TAMU's pod getting the easiest road to the finals, RPI -wise. They took care of the host.

also, we didn't get screwed as bad as SCU did. They have the hardest RPI road, we only have the second hardest

I've become convinced: The NCAA thinks they can give the Pilots the shaft. Here are team records over the last two years:

Stanford 38-1-1 Two #1 seeds. Well deserved, in my opinion.

Portland 35-2 No #1 seeds.

UCLA 35-2-3 Two #1 seeds.

Notre Dame 39-3-1 One #1 seed.

North Carolina 37-4-3 Two #1 seeds.

Florida State 33-7-4 One #1 seed.

By itself, what's happened this year is bad, but not massive. It's the cumulative result over the years that's indicative. The NCAA thinks it can get away with shafting Portland, year after year.

I, for one, don't think the school administration is doing enough to make a stink about this. We fans are working our tails off to support the Pilots. Where's the reciprocal effort from the AD, his staff, and the higher administration? If they're making a stink, I sure haven't heard about it.

This hurts the team, but it hurts the fans too. Why isn't the administration standing up for us?

The year we got the shaft despite being ranked #1 in every poll, I challenged the Pilot member of the selection committee via email and all I got was a weak, weasel response about the process. He really gave me the impression that he had no interest in rocking the boat. How do these people advance in today's world?