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Post by powerfan on Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:31 pm

Does anyone know if Boise State wins the WAC tournament tomorrow and gets the automatic seed, are they close enough to help Portland host the 1st and 2nd rounds?

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Re: Boise State

Post by mattywizz on Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:39 pm

I know that they beat the Ducks...............so did Stanford!!!!!!!!!!!

but to answer your question, I think not, but I am not sure. I'm sure Geezer or UPSF or someone who actually knows will actually answer your question.

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Re: Boise State

Post by gnarly on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:02 pm

No, probably not.

Depending on what happens tomorrow, you might might see a host site at Boise St with WSU as the seed, joined by Idaho St, and BYU.

Lots of balls in the air until we know who get the automatic bids and try to pick seeds.

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Re: Boise State

Post by eProf on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:22 pm

According to Google Maps, Boise is 435 miles from UP, while Pullman is 353 miles.

I think that means what WSU is close enough, but BSU is not.

Interestingly, the trip from Boise is essentially all freeway. Google'e estimate driving time from Boise, 6:44, is shorter than from Pullman, 6:51. (Of course I've been in Seattle traffic on days that I'm pretty sure that Boise-to-UP would be faster than UW-to-UP.)

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Post by ShipstadPilot11 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:27 pm

The trip to Pullman is a tad obscure. You have to go up through Tri-Cities and either go to Spokane and down 195 or cut across on Highway 26 to Colfax. NO straight shot to Pullman. Pretty drive though...

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Re: Boise State

Post by gnarly on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:45 pm

We can only have 1 Pac 10 team if we host. Right now WSU is likely to be in the top 16 that get seeded. Likely we'll have UW or OSU come our way. UO is on the bubble and might not finish 500 which would put them out.

Also, I think the committee stretches the 400 thing and uses "as the crow flies" For example, LSU has go to host FSU before and they look to be over 400 mi and I doubt if they let them fly.

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Re: Boise State

Post by Geezaldinho on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:15 pm

By NCAA rule, they have to use the Travel Expense System calculator to calculate the distances.(TES)

This is available at https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/TES/exec/miles

The distance between institutions for UP- Boise State with that calculator is 436 miles.

The distance between Gowen Field (BOI) and Portland (PDX) is 427 miles. For airports, you have to use the cheapest routing, and they could require you to go a certain distance (something like 200 miles) to get to that airport. WSU, for instance, flies out of Spokane.

The distance between institutional addresses:
From: 1910 University drive, Boise, ID, 83725
To: 5000 N. Willamette Blvd, Portland , OR, 97203
Miles: 436.0

I think they will accept any calculation method. (Though it wouldn't surprise me if they only accepted whatever is cheaper, now)

By all methods, though, Boise State is outside the 400 mile limit.



I don't know about FSU's hosting history. Perhaps FSUfan can enlighten us. The calculator calculates the distance between FSU and LSU as 443 miles, but I don't have a clue what airports they ordinarily fly out of. They could be within the 400 mile radius, in which case the NCAA would only pay for ground transportation and the schools would be considered within the radius.

And there are, of course, lots of exceptions in history to the hosting rule. I think BYU has hosted without a hosting partner nearby. The NCAA just justifies that as being the cheapest method.

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