Typical NCAA Hypocrisy
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Typical NCAA Hypocrisy
The good old NCAA has done it again... thrown the book at a mid-major while allowing BCS schools to skate on by. Wide-spread cheating scandal at Florida State? Wild cheating at Indiana? No big deal.
But the SE Missouri State coaches giving a ride to a player to see his newborn baby? And watching some pick-up games? That equates to vacating three years of wins, the coach getting fired, restrictions on recruiting, loss of a scholarship, and other penalties.
http://www.semissourian.com/story/1561966.html
The women's program also got dinged... for an admittedly more serious violation. A booster paid for a final semester of tuition for a player whose eligibility was exhausted (thus no longer on scholarship), still needed a few credits to graduate, and couldn't get enough financial aid. But really... is that situation really all that bad? I mean, I know it's a violation, but helping a kid to graduate after all her eligibility is done with? There are worse things in the world.
And I love how they penalize the coaches for watching summer pick-up games. I know it's a violation, but the rules are very gray for this... Gonzaga, Santa Clara, and tons of other schools with newer gyms have coaches offices that have windows that open to the court. So they can watch all they want from their desk. According to the NCAA, that is not a violation. But if the coach doesn't have a window that opens to the court, he can't go sit in the gym. Ah... hypocrisy at it's finest.
When will this end? Will a BCS school ever get such treatment by the NCAA?
But the SE Missouri State coaches giving a ride to a player to see his newborn baby? And watching some pick-up games? That equates to vacating three years of wins, the coach getting fired, restrictions on recruiting, loss of a scholarship, and other penalties.
http://www.semissourian.com/story/1561966.html
The women's program also got dinged... for an admittedly more serious violation. A booster paid for a final semester of tuition for a player whose eligibility was exhausted (thus no longer on scholarship), still needed a few credits to graduate, and couldn't get enough financial aid. But really... is that situation really all that bad? I mean, I know it's a violation, but helping a kid to graduate after all her eligibility is done with? There are worse things in the world.
And I love how they penalize the coaches for watching summer pick-up games. I know it's a violation, but the rules are very gray for this... Gonzaga, Santa Clara, and tons of other schools with newer gyms have coaches offices that have windows that open to the court. So they can watch all they want from their desk. According to the NCAA, that is not a violation. But if the coach doesn't have a window that opens to the court, he can't go sit in the gym. Ah... hypocrisy at it's finest.
When will this end? Will a BCS school ever get such treatment by the NCAA?
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Well they did punish UW with bowl bans and scholarship losses and put Minnesota on probation... Haha but why do I feel like that would never happen to Ohio State, Florida or some other "big money" schools...
The NCAA kind of takes a Bud Selig approach to punishment, ignore the causes when the times are overwhelmingly perceived as good and hand down far too little punishment far after that perception has actually changed....
And don't get me started on USC and the rumors that Reggie Bush made MORE in college than he does now...
The NCAA kind of takes a Bud Selig approach to punishment, ignore the causes when the times are overwhelmingly perceived as good and hand down far too little punishment far after that perception has actually changed....
And don't get me started on USC and the rumors that Reggie Bush made MORE in college than he does now...

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Yeah, and I'm sure nothing untoward occurred during OJ Mayo's tenure at USC. 

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florida state? the world is not out to get the little guys
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Well, Stoney, it shouldn't surprise.
The NCAA has always been a hypocracy.
The NCAA has always been a hypocracy.

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Scarey isn't it?

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Are you trying to start another arguement? Stoney might take offence. It might incentivise him to strike back.
You know he is sensitive about how things are spelt.
You know he is sensitive about how things are spelt.
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Haha, he's an anglophobe, what can I say 

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Ha ha... I should have learned years ago that it's just not worth trying to one-up the Geez. The man is just too good! 
But really... it is hypocrisy and not hypocracy, right? Or am I just going crazy?
But really... it is hypocrisy and not hypocracy, right? Or am I just going crazy?

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Stonehouse wrote:Ha ha... I should havelearnedlearnt years ago that it's just not worth trying to one-up the Geez. The man is just too good!
But really... it is hypocrisy and not hypocracy, right? Or am I just going crazy?
fixed your post.
Take a deep breath, Stoney. I was just messing with you.
There is, however, a definition in the Urban Dictionary for Hypocracy. It's a democracy run by Hypocrites.
Just to be clear - I'm not saying you're NOT going crazy.....
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Another thread hijacked by our own neuroses... nice.
Carry on.
Carry on.
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Sorry, Years ago I stuck my head in a Liberal Arts College and got it mangled....
horrible accident.
horrible accident.

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Some of those profs will do that to you! 

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OK, properly chastened, let's get back on task
Sometimes I think Dwight Jaynes is full of it, but he has weighed in on this issue with a pretty unique perspective that will interest Pilot fans.
HERE
and-one-more-ncaa-story
That said- I hope Rev doesn't have anything in his wallet...
HERE
and-one-more-ncaa-story
That said- I hope Rev doesn't have anything in his wallet...

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Purplegeezer wrote:Sometimes I think Dwight Jaynes is full of it, but he has weighed in on this issue with a pretty unique perspective that will interest Pilot fans.
HERE
and-one-more-ncaa-story
That said- I hope Rev doesn't have anything in his wallet...
And I hope there is a statute of limitations...

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