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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by SoreKnees on Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:44 pm

I don't remember more than about three, but they all occurred in the final couple of minutes. On the instances where he stopped the clock, there didn't seem to me to be lengthy delays (e.g., ball in the stands) or to be obvious time-wasting by Texas.

I think all referees hate the high-school/college official stadium clock. There are so many subtle ways of wasting time for a team clinging to a lead. Under FIFA rules, we can simply add time without resorting to a warning or caution to the players or coach. A simple word to the trailing coach "Don't worry, I'm adding on time" defuses the whole situation without requiring a formal intervention. With the college clock you don't have that option. In fact, I can't find anything in the NCAA rule book that allows the clock to be stopped without issuing a caution for delaying the restart of play. The ball in the stands probably passes a common-sense test, but even that doesn't seem to be in the book.

Bottom line: Petrocelli may have a strong case, but no case is strong enough for his abusive behavior.

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Post by DaTruRochin on Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:48 pm

Agreed!! I grew up with coaches yelling at every whim... SO annoying and confusing for a player (especially if you get 3 coaches yelling the same thing). It wasn't until HS, our coach was a former irish international, he would should something occasional, but other wise he would pull you aside and tell you a couple things to adjust. And if he had something to say to the ref he would calmly do it at halftime or have a captain point it out. We were ranked #3 nationally at the time and honestly I think the coach had everything to do with it (Manly because players would specifically come to the school to play for that kind of a coach)

Anyway long story short, the yelling and whatnot is for the practice field, the game is for the players. Coaches only job should be to substitute if someone gets hurt, tired or if he needs to make a tactical adjustment. Other than that you need to trust your players to recognize their job and perform what you have instructed them in training. Rant

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Post by ohhh_yeah on Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:53 pm

there was a texas player who also put her hands on the 4th official after the final whistle and had to be restrained by a lineman...

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Post by Auto Pilot on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:01 pm

That is what is called teaching by example. Bad example, but still an example. Sad thing is at least a few of these Texas players will go on to coach somewhere and will take that style with them. Bad.

If the coach is paid to coach I wonder if they get docked when their own bad behaviour causes them to miss work. Kind of like calling into your boss and saying I can't come into day I am in jail.

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Post by FANatic on Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:09 pm

I'm glad he won't be on the sidelines for tomorrow's 2nd round match. We don't need some out of control idiot taking attention away from what is important: the match! Mad

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:10 pm

Exactly. At the Portland-LMU men's match last Friday the coach was up and down the touchline yelling at anyone in a black shirt, and the fourth had to calm him down more than once. And guess what the players were doing in the field?

As for Clive, the only time I ever saw him address a referee was to say, in the same tone you might use to ask the time, "Referee, he can't be allowed to do that."

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Post by DaTruRochin on Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:36 pm

haha and always addressed the referees as Sir. You can't tell me that doesn't help the referees maintain composure and call a better game as well....

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Post by SoreKnees on Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:46 pm

It surely does. I've refereed matches for Garrett's FC Portland teams on occasion and he's a class act from the referee's perspective as well as the fan's.

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Post by DaTruRochin on Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:49 pm

The only situation I can see as acceptable for a coach needing to show a little dissension to an official is in the case of him feeling his players are in danger of injury, haha but then again any well mannered, respectful coach can do that without generating themselves a booking....

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by WPS_Movement on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:34 pm

I would like to be able to watch this game. I live out of state, and am not able to see the game. I do not have the Comcast sportsnet northwest channel on DirecTV at home.

If someone could make a copy of this game on DVD or VHS, then that would be greatly appreciated. I would certainly pay for it, and it would be a more than fair profit for you as well to compensate for your time.

I am also interesed in seeing the UP vs. Northern Arizona game as well from a couple of days ago. I would gladly pay for a copy of that game as well... either DVD or VHS.

If you're interested in helping out, and talking about price compensation for the recording, then you can e-mail me at ... wpsmovement@yahoo.com

You can also reply to this thread as well.

Thank you. :-)

*note* - sorry about the post in multiple threads. I'm anxious to see UP in these games. Thank you.


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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by skywaker9 on Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:29 pm

GOAL PILOTS! Danielle Foxhaven in the 10th, 1-0 UP...

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by DaTruRochin on Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:11 pm

Someone please throw me a bone.... I've stared at match tracker, couldn't get to a TV, and no speakers on the computer.... I know they won and it looks like they dominated defensively... AND I saw Wake Forest lost too, so James Madison next round!! Eek!!

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by Auto Pilot on Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:25 pm

Well I won't try and give you matchtracker stats which you already know. But based on the audio. Its looks like we had the better possession with many near misses (Rapinoe, Burke). A few inches and it could have been 4-0 but inches dont't count. Interesting reposition on Texas part. They moved Kasey Moore to forward from her usual central defender position. I think they figured they had to put their best player in position to score if at all possible. Good job by Kassie handling Moore she is about twice the size.

Not much credit goes to Kassie but she and Carrie Dew of Notre Dame are possibly the best central defenders in college soccer. Our back line was solid as usual and Kelsey also only notching one save was active in coming off her line for crosses and through balls. I heard Jessica's name alot in connection with overlapping runs. Good news is they announced we will host for James Madison.

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by DaTruRochin on Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:29 pm

I think we would have hosted no matter what, we were higher seeded than the Deacons too...

Kassie for sure is the real deal. She looked great in the game friday, never lost her poise, and definitely showed her versatility with the tricky strike to beat a good keeper off a corner kick. Her and Cloee next hear as center backs?? ridiculous

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by Auto Pilot on Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:45 pm

Yes the back line will be sick. Kelsey has one more year too so the defense looks only to get better. With Sophie and Danielle having 2 and three more years respectively the forwards are set also. The only bit hit I can see is Megan graduating. I mean is there another midfielder out there or on our team that can generate such enthusiam and grit not to mention rocket shot.

From within Keelin is already there in terms of grit and determination. Charney is playing the small ball well but her shot accuracy needs improvement. We will just have to see I guess.

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wow. oh, wow

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:55 pm

The second half of that game was sick. Almost all of it was played within 25 yards of the Texas goal. Except for maybe 4 or 5 breakout runs that got quickly shut down by the defense, It was all UP.

I'd list all the players who had great games, but there is a post length limit.

Great job, ladies. Thank you for treating us to a great day of UP brand soccer!

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by aleppiek on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:06 pm

Unless i am delusional Petrucelli was certainly on the bench today... anyone with any insight as to how he was able to be there?

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by SoreKnees on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:12 pm

The rumor in our section was that the red card was rescinded. I suspect that the red card stands, but the suspension was rescinded since once the card is issued, it is pretty much final.

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Post by PurplePrideTrumpet on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:31 pm

SoreKnees wrote:The rumor in our section was that the red card was rescinded. I suspect that the red card stands, but the suspension was rescinded since once the card is issued, it is pretty much final.
So what, all he gets is a reminder from the Big 12 to be on his best behavior? What crap. Go after an official like he did and he should have been done for today and a few games at the start of next season.

Grow a pair, NCAA.

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Post by Stonehouse on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:39 pm

Petrucelli appealed the red card and won the appeal.

Not sure exactly what his argument was, but if what people said was correct - the ref adding time to the clock, stopping the clock, etc... maybe it's understandable? That's definitely strange, and I think any coach up 1-0 in a playoff game would be pretty upset with that.

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by Geezaldinho on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:43 pm

He was a lamb today.

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by DaTruRochin on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:46 pm

Well if your team was pinned in their back 3rd today, you would be too... And i'm sure he was reprimanded for his behavior behind closed doors....

That said, I can hardly blame him for his frustrations, when are the NCAAs going to get with the program and be rid of the countdown clock??

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Re: Texas 2nd Round Game

Post by SoreKnees on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:47 pm

An apt quote from our "love-to-hate" coach after today's match:

"In a game like this if you turn the ball over it takes a long time to get it back."

That pretty much say it all from where I was sitting!

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Post by Auto Pilot on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:51 pm

That is flawed logic. Since when does a referee's mistake give a coach license to attack, threaten, intimidate or fling dung at a referee. Even if the time clock was truly a fiasco there still is no excuse for the red card behaviour.

Ah, but who cares, he is Texas' colic infant.

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Post by DaTruRochin on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:54 pm

Haha oh don't get me wrong, I'm just sympathizing his frustrations, not that he let them boil over into a childish fit. That has to be embarrassing as a player to have your supposed mentor and leader act like that.

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